TuFun
Charter Member
Whipped upped this walkway on the left wing vers the old TP Howard design. Not sure what Mr. Howard used on his versions he built. What you think?
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Whipped upped this walkway on the left wing vers the old TP Howard design. Not sure what Mr. Howard used on his versions he built. What you think?
Sunny9850
SOH-CM-2024
I would add one thing though, since these walkways are usually covered with a gritty-nonslip surface I would eliminate all panel lines covered by them. These "paints" are usually a few millimeters thick on aircraft where there is a constant use of them like in this case to get the fuelers safely up and down the wing.
On modern transport types there is very little reason to walk around on the wings so their use is diminished and often there is nothing more than a paint line indicating the safe area to walk in.
Cheers
Stefan
On modern transport types there is very little reason to walk around on the wings so their use is diminished and often there is nothing more than a paint line indicating the safe area to walk in.
Cheers
Stefan
TuFun
Charter Member
Worked on many aircraft that had that gritty black painted walkways, just only made the templates to see which you guys liked.
Here's an alternate version with the gritty paint.
TuFun
Charter Member
I do the "what if" thing! What if I do this or do that kinda thing. Plus I sleep on it, let the brain work on it while I sleep... wake up and poof... there it is!
Looking great as usual Tufun!
Kind of missed the Torino talk. I had a 72 Gran Torino with the 351 Cleveland for a while. Put an Edelbrock aluminum intake, Holley Spread bore 4 bl carb and a free flowing exhaust on it. It was one strong running ol' car when I had it. Stopping it was the problem as it kept blowing brake master cylinders about once a month.
Kind of missed the Torino talk. I had a 72 Gran Torino with the 351 Cleveland for a while. Put an Edelbrock aluminum intake, Holley Spread bore 4 bl carb and a free flowing exhaust on it. It was one strong running ol' car when I had it. Stopping it was the problem as it kept blowing brake master cylinders about once a month.
TuFun
Charter Member
Those Cleveland engines were brutes... tough engines, especially those Boss motors! My Mustang Fastback had a 289 with 282/464 cam kit, Edelbrock Torker, Holley 600cfm, Cyclone headers, 2 1/4 pipes with Corvair turbo mufflers. Loved those lopey engine sounds. Four barrel kicked in at 3000 rpm.
Edelbrock Torker with slanted base was the one I installed on the Mustang.
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Sunny9850
SOH-CM-2024
Worked on many aircraft that had that gritty black painted walkways, just only made the templates to see which you guys liked.
Here's an alternate version with the gritty paint.
That is the ticket I think. I did not mean to imply anything btw with my explanation. Some quite talented painters in our little hobby have had precious little real world contact with their subject matter due to age, location etc.
So when adding a comment such as my previous one I simply do so for general information.
Cheers
Stefan
TuFun
Charter Member
Sometimes its hard to clarify what one is doing on a project, especially on forums. Adding to this the resolution also make a difference in clarity of a project. What's interesting is creating in one resolution looks supper, then try in another resolution it gets muddled, requires finagling to look have way descent. So I have to experiment with an alternative process. Very time consuming for me since I don't have the background in digital art.
What's funny is I didn't read any implying in your post. It's funny how we interpret someone else thoughts!
-TuFun
Jagdflieger
Jr. Admin
Fun indeed!
TuFun, it's looking great and you must have the patience of Job to be able to work towards such levels of perfection. 
As for Torino engines, mine was the 400 with a C6 tranny. I really liked and preferred the 351 Cleveland as it was slightly smaller and there were way more performance parts for the 351C than the 351M and 400 engines. Shortly after I bought the car, the first thing I did was to pull the two barrel carb and cast iron intake manifold and swap in an Edelbrock Performer dual plane aluminum manifold and a Holley 750 cfm vacuum secondary carb. 750 cfm was way too much carb for the tired, old 400 and was still a little too much for the 400 I built for my Torino. If I were to do it again, I think I'd use a Carter AFB carburetor as they seem to have better idle and part throttle performance than most Holley carbs. I did consider swapping in a 351C, but that would have meant new motor mounts, new transmission and probably a new drive shaft, but that was way more expensive than building a high performance 400 and rebuilding the existing transmission.
As for Torino engines, mine was the 400 with a C6 tranny. I really liked and preferred the 351 Cleveland as it was slightly smaller and there were way more performance parts for the 351C than the 351M and 400 engines. Shortly after I bought the car, the first thing I did was to pull the two barrel carb and cast iron intake manifold and swap in an Edelbrock Performer dual plane aluminum manifold and a Holley 750 cfm vacuum secondary carb. 750 cfm was way too much carb for the tired, old 400 and was still a little too much for the 400 I built for my Torino. If I were to do it again, I think I'd use a Carter AFB carburetor as they seem to have better idle and part throttle performance than most Holley carbs. I did consider swapping in a 351C, but that would have meant new motor mounts, new transmission and probably a new drive shaft, but that was way more expensive than building a high performance 400 and rebuilding the existing transmission.
Maarten -
Charter Member 2016
TuFun, it's looking great and you must have the patience of Job to be able to work towards such levels of perfection.
It is way above anyone can expect a very high standard to be.
Cheers,
Maarten
TuFun
Charter Member
TuFun, it's looking great and you must have the patience of Job to be able to work towards such levels of perfection.
As for Torino engines, mine was the 400 with a C6 tranny. I really liked and preferred the 351 Cleveland as it was slightly smaller and there were way more performance parts for the 351C than the 351M and 400 engines. Shortly after I bought the car, the first thing I did was to pull the two barrel carb and cast iron intake manifold and swap in an Edelbrock Performer dual plane aluminum manifold and a Holley 750 cfm vacuum secondary carb. 750 cfm was way too much carb for the tired, old 400 and was still a little too much for the 400 I built for my Torino. If I were to do it again, I think I'd use a Carter AFB carburetor as they seem to have better idle and part throttle performance than most Holley carbs. I did consider swapping in a 351C, but that would have meant new motor mounts, new transmission and probably a new drive shaft, but that was way more expensive than building a high performance 400 and rebuilding the existing transmission.
I had the Holley 600 cfm vacuum secondary carb on a 289. I had a set of jets to work with when dialing it in. The beauty of it was the Stang would run on 300 cfm around town and cruising, then all 600 cfm would kick in at 3000 rpm. The trans was a C4 which was reworked with B&M goodies... stuff like complete B&M valve body. I broke two trans racing before I went with this one. This fixed the weak link in the drive train.
It is way above anyone can expect a very high standard to be.
Cheers,
Maarten
Thanks Stan and Maarten, I fly the Howard a lot, and didn't expect this project would turn out the way it has. It is a beautiful aircraft to look at and fly! Where can you get a corporate aircraft that has two R-2800 18 cylinder engines! -TuFun
