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MILVIZ T-38 current pics...

I thought Vertigo was working on a T-37? Or maybe it was something that looked similar to it. I know we personally don't have anything like that in the works. Plenty in the pipeline, but not a T-37.

Oh please no! That thing has the most irritating sound I've ever heard.


This T-38 is looking more impressive every time I see screenshots. You guys have done a brilliant job! :jump:
 
After release, a lot of liveries are planned. This «retro»-NASA will be one of them :jump:

At the moment I will have to focus at the TB (which is a real challenge). A paintkit will also be available (I have to simplify it a bit :running:)

Great to know.

As Colin mentioned, I understand there's a lot of work to date - so will happily wait it out and see what materialises.

Thanks guys!

dl
 
im NOT a nitpicker and i feel bad even saying this....but i was at the beale airforce base open house on april 30th,they had a flight of 5 T-38s open the show and then had a flight of two later and they have a building on the for right of the ramp ( facing the runway)with atleast 7 T-38s parked there,,,i didnt get pics im afraid....but my nitpick is that they were all a high gloss black..not a mat....your screen shots seem to be a mat (matte?) black..maybe your paints are for an older version for vietnam times or something?..i dont know..but its an observation..all the T-38s i saw on april 30th were a high gloss ..

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We will verify but, if it was April 3oth THIS year, then it's likely that they were C's and not A's and also, probably, for show purposes. I personally prefer the slight matte feel... But there ya go. Easy enough to change it yourself if you don't like it...
 
I've looked at a ton of T-38 pics while being a part of the Beta test team, many of which are the BB paint scheme. There's alot of pics where the paint is clearly shiney/glossy, and there's alot of pics where the plane is clearly not shiney ...not because it's painted with a dull or matt paint, but because they haven't been buffed out in awhile. Planes are like cars. They only stay shiney if you leave them in the hangar and never use them. If you use them on a daily basis, the finish tends to dull out.

I'm going out on a limb, here, but I'd bet they had the BB T-38's buffed out to look their best for the show.
 
Maybe not buffed at all...what was that wax called that was wiped on and let dry?
Who would take their car to a car show and not polish it before putting it on display? The Thunderbird paint, has to be clean and shiny to be correct. :icon_lol: - Jim
 
My father's most depressing moment in his career is when he first walked out to the flight line and climbed into a filthy dirty F-100 at Nellis where he was working as a fighter-weapons instructor after just having spent 4 years flying with the aerobatic team in pristine polished airplanes.
 
im NOT a nitpicker and i feel bad even saying this....but i was at the beale airforce base open house on april 30th,they had a flight of 5 T-38s open the show and then had a flight of two later and they have a building on the for right of the ramp ( facing the runway)with atleast 7 T-38s parked there,,,i didnt get pics im afraid....but my nitpick is that they were all a high gloss black..not a mat....your screen shots seem to be a mat (matte?) black..maybe your paints are for an older version for vietnam times or something?..i dont know..but its an observation..all the T-38s i saw on april 30th were a high gloss ..

black with red lettering

The screens are not telling the whole truth. The BB is more shiny than shown on these. I'm aware of the glossy surface, and the livery is still under development. So yes, I am going to polish her a bit more :icon_lol:
 
lets clairify someting here..i was NOT complaining,i was asking about it....the comment about the "A" or "C" would satisfy me..or shined for the show ect....i certinly wasnt complaining..as i said i wasnt trying to nitpick
 
lets clairify someting here..i was NOT complaining,i was asking about it....the comment about the "A" or "C" would satisfy me..or shined for the show ect....i certinly wasnt complaining..as i said i wasnt trying to nitpick

Right. No worries, you did put that disclaimer in your previous post. Here's a few shot's after Gunnar did his thing. It's very glossy now, I hope the screenies convey it appropriately.

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yes bone...that looks great...love it.....one of the threads scares me thouggh....this thing is hard to fly at slow speed?
 
.....one of the threads scares me thouggh....this thing is hard to fly at slow speed?


Well, it's not designed to fly at slow speeds, so slow flight is not recomended. With that said, however, you do have to land, and the final turn to landing is done in a prestall buffet (for lack of better terminology). Barfly is on the Beta test team, and he's a former T-38 driver. He's infinitely more qualified to talk about the flying characteristics, since he's been the chief test pilot with regards to aerodynamics. Bstolle has actually built the FDE based on real world test data documents, and Barfly's input. Those guys know a heck of alot more about it than I do.
 
The T-38 is one of the few aircraft which can break the below 10,000 below 250 knot rule. Talons are able to go to 300 knots below 10,000

Diego
 
Generally speaking, minimum speed at low altitude is 300 knots, and is normal speed, with the waiver from the FAA. At that speed normal maneuvers up to a couple g are very easy, as long as you keep a light touch on the stick. For maneuvers transitioning to landing: VFR 'box' patterns are 300 knots, instrument approaches are flown at 220-250 knots; the airplane is cat E for approaches.

Below 300 knots at low alt, maneuvering should be limited to standard rate turns, with no aerobatics. Military overheads are a special case here, where you very rapidly reduce speed from 300 knots to landing; its a very advanced maneuver especially given limitations of computer flying, but is not necessary to get the plane on the ground. You can easily land out of a straight in if you respect the minimum speeds, which we will show you how to calculate.
 
It shouldn't be long now. They're about to smear the icing on the cake, and there's a jar of Maraschino Cherry's sitting next to it.

It seems, though, I short-changed some dedicated backseat flyers concerning VC shots. Here's a few, and the jet flys really good from the back seat, with fantastic forward visibility for landing from there.

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Here's another of the forward VC, with much better light than the previous ones on page 1.

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We still do not have a date for release as we are still testing.. Ken is putting the final touches on the manual with writting the credits and such. Will just be a matter of making sure the final bugs are worked out, and then packing her up for release. I do not have an educated guess though at this point as to when.

As far as the bird being difficult to fly it really isn't hard to fly. It is just trying to break out of old habits.. For me I usually fly older propeller driven birds, or commercial jets. So I am used to flying slower to land than the T-38 likes. This led to a lot of crashes in the beginning, but like with everything eventually you learn it's nuances. Now landing and all is a piece of cake. I think that will be the hardest thing for people that are accustomed to slower birds like me, but you quickly adjust.

EDIT: On second thought. You will know when it is close. Cause like with the 310 we will try to get the paintkit, and manual out there early. I still haven't seen the paint kit come through though, and Ken is still working on the manual. I would say though within a week of when you see the paint kit/manual up on our site providing we do not run into any last minute 'oh by the ways.'
 
This model looks to be absolutely stunning!!!

One question, what kind of min specs do you project to run it decently?
 
This model looks to be absolutely stunning!!!

One question, what kind of min specs do you project to run it decently?

Hmm. Good question. I've been running it on my fairly new rig that has the i980X CPU OC'd to 4.2GhZ, and a NVIDIA GTX 480 vid card. It cuts like a hot knife through butter when I load it up beyond probly what a normal simmer would do.

I have some time tommorrow that I can fire up my old rig that has a QX9650 CPU OC'd to 3.8 GhZ, with an NVIDIA GTX 8800. That will give us an idea about an older machine's performance. Keep in mind I'm using a 30 inch monitor at 2560x1600 res, so whatever stats I can come up with, you may do better if you're using a smaller monitor.
 
Hmm. Good question. I've been running it on my fairly new rig that has the i980X CPU OC'd to 4.2GhZ, and a NVIDIA GTX 480 vid card. It cuts like a hot knife through butter when I load it up beyond probly what a normal simmer would do.

I have some time tommorrow that I can fire up my old rig that has a QX9650 CPU OC'd to 3.8 GhZ, with an NVIDIA GTX 8800. That will give us an idea about an older machine's performance. Keep in mind I'm using a 30 inch monitor at 2560x1600 res, so whatever stats I can come up with, you may do better if you're using a smaller monitor.

I've got a Q6600 oc'd to 3.0 GHz and a 768MB GTX8800. I can run Aerosoft's F-16 fairly well in PNW Blue, so long as I stay away from big city areas.
 
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