Rafale C for FS2004

Hmmm .. smell no good .... :(

From the forum
.....bien....je pense que je vais monter un peu plus fort aux créneaux puisque les dernières nouvelles sont :
"nous on vous autorise a reproduire payware ou freeware mais on réclame une redevance".......
je pense que je vais leur demander leur avis sur les millions de "reproductions" tous support de leurs produits sans accords de licence, et qui par ailleurs ne sont pas "controlable"....je croit avoir ete gentil en leur proposant une action commerciale gratuite et en plus complétement "vérifiable".
cela risque de changer.
j'attend la question "combien?" de votre part : je dirais assez pour s'endetter pendant un moment mais avec des droits de commercialisation mondiaux.
il reste à savoir si le jeu en vaut la chandelle.
la suite dans la semaine.
Click to expand...

Google translator ..............................

..... well .... I think I'll get a little harder to slots since the last news:
"We authorize you to reproduce it payware or freeware but requires a fee ".......
I think I'll ask them their opinion on the millions of "reproductions" support all of their products without licensing agreements, and also are not "controllable ".... I believe they have been offering them a nice action free trade and more fully "verifiable".
this may change.
I await the question "how?" from you: I would say enough to go into debt for a while but with global marketing rights.
It remains to be seen if the game is worth it.
later in the week.
Click to expand...

Dassault want royalties from a freeware !
Everybody know that's the economic crisis in France .. but it seems that Dassault is really more concerned than others .. LOL
The best solution is that this "Rafale team" migrate to China ... hehe
 
I seem to recall Gulfstream have made similar demands, which is why there are so few models of their planes available.

As Navtech said, the irony is they can't sell the real thing; maybe they are trying to recoup the development costs via flight simmers? :icon_lol:
 
The one thing that never ceases to amaze me about this sort of thing is that the company, (Dassault), wants a "royalty payment" on "freeware". As if the folks at "rafalevpa" were planning to make huge amounts of money with the creation of their "virtual" Rafale aircraft. Even if it were being offered as a payware product... we're not talking about "bundles of fivers" here.

Reckon there are just some things in life I will never understand. :censored:

BB686:USA-flag:
 
They are still talking to Dassault Aviation, or waiting for replies. The problem is that they asked, and that they asked about a week before the original expected release rather than a couple of months before. So while they are now pretty much ready to go they still have to deal with Dassault. In the meantime they are continuing to refine it and are working on the B model.
:ernae:
 
Thanks for the update, Frank.

I think there would be a way to resolve this issue by simply listing the "ui manufacturer" as RAFALEVPA, instead of Dassault. May not be that easy tho... like you say, they have already asked for permission.

BB688:USA-flag:
 
Blackbird686 said:
Thanks for the update, Frank.

I think there would be a way to resolve this issue by simply listing the "ui manufacturer" as RAFALEVPA, instead of Dassault. May not be that easy tho... like you say, they have already asked for permission.

BB688:USA-flag:
Click to expand...
I agree. Roland should have done the same with his FSX version. It was also suggested, and sometime I've done for others before, that they rename it and distribute it via my website since that is "out of the country" to them. Always an option as far as I'm concerned.

I'm sure it will all get sorted out eventually. In the meantime we still have some updates to Gator's version to punch holes in the sky with.
:ernae:
 
fsafranek said:
They are still talking to Dassault Aviation, or waiting for replies. The problem is that they asked, and that they asked about a week before the original expected release rather than a couple of months before. So while they are now pretty much ready to go they still have to deal with Dassault. In the meantime they are continuing to refine it and are working on the B model.
:ernae:
Click to expand...

Well on the bright side, they are putting the time to use <sigh>. How can you ask for royalties for something being given away? Again I say, lawyers...
 
Blackbird686 said:
The one thing that never ceases to amaze me about this sort of thing is that the company, (Dassault), wants a "royalty payment" on "freeware". As if the folks at "rafalevpa" were planning to make huge amounts of money with the creation of their "virtual" Rafale aircraft. Even if it were being offered as a payware product... we're not talking about "bundles of fivers" here.

Reckon there are just some things in life I will never understand. :censored:

BB686:USA-flag:
Click to expand...

Indeed... ... Very strange publicity for Dassault...
 
Latest word, as of last night, from VPA is that their Rafale C will be released by the
end of the month if not this weekend. They've been working on the aircraft while
waiting for the Dassault Aviation issue to be resolved so some additional testing is
planned for the next few days. But then it should be ready to go. Yea!

Very pleased to hear that they will finally get the satisfaction of seeing their efforts
enjoyed by others. Selfishly we also get a new Rafale for FS2004. :icon_lol:

:ernae:
 
EXCELLENT NEWS!!! Glad they were able to get things worked out. Thanks for the update, Frank. :salute:

BB686:USA-flag:
 
I had just given up hope on this sure that Dassault had killed it with its stupid give us money position. Great news!
 
fsafranek said:
Latest word, as of last night, from VPA is that their Rafale C will be released by the
end of the month if not this weekend. They've been working on the aircraft while
waiting for the Dassault Aviation issue to be resolved so some additional testing is
planned for the next few days. But then it should be ready to go. Yea!

Very pleased to hear that they will finally get the satisfaction of seeing their efforts
enjoyed by others. Selfishly we also get a new Rafale for FS2004. :icon_lol:

:ernae:
Click to expand...

Unfortunately Frank this is not what I read this morning on the VPA team french forum.
The news are not good at all.
Dassault Aviation have even closed on their website their "Passionate Corners" webpage
presenting other Dassault aircraft available for FS9 and FSX.

There is a big chance this Rafale project for FS9 will be a non released private venture.

Too bad !
:kilroy:
VaporZ
 
VaporZ is right !
Dassault will never give the green light until they paid a equivalent money of thousands Euros (it's what I read on their forum)
They should send a letter requesting support of president Sarkozy has .. it will work .. because the French are at election time ROFL
Dassault is ridiculous .. and now I understand that if they have the same marketing policy for their real plane .. they are not yet ready for sell one to any air force ... :icon_lol:
Anyways it's seem's they will release it .. Dassault permission or not !
 
As if I haven't made enough comments on this thread... It would be a shame if RAFALEVPA, having spent great lengths of time, "buckets of sweat and pints of blood" putting the Rafale package together, not to be able to release it (as freeware mind you), because, for whatever reason Dassault does not understand the meaning of "freeware". If I were "Dassault", I would look at this as an asset to possible contracts for the real deal, as well as taking pride in the interest shown in their product by virtual pilots.... that's just me. I wonder if the model had been a Mirage 2000, or other Mirage aircraft, what would have happened?
Yes, I would like to have the Rafale, but that's not the point. This kind of thing discourages talented developers and modelers away from the flight simming hobby IMO. Like myself, and others in this community have said... just call it something else. Problem solved.

In the mean time, Gator's excellent Rafale will be the mainstay for my virtual flight simming missions... irregardless of what the outcome might be in this case. And if the new Rafale is released, I will gladly fly that one too. :salute:

BB686:USA-flag:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top