SOH Team Project - Grumman Tracker, Trader, Tracer

Sascha66 said:
Very pretty coat for a beautiful lady! This one is smiling, what with the other engine intakes.
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Yes, the engine nacelles are quite different as well in shape and length. It actually took a lot of time to convert these nacelles for the PT6A engines versions.

This early turbo conversion has the S2A short fuselage, short wings and short tails among other differences.

I really like this paint scheme TG72 :)
 
I assume that stuff washes off???

Can you post some pictures of the retardant as its being dropped. Not happy with the effects as they are. Maybe we can get something more realistic.
 
TG72, that is exactly what we need to develop a better FX. It shows the solids and weight of the retardant, direction of travel with only small wisps of wind shearing the outer edges back. It is amazing how straight down the mass drops.

It also appears the aircraft is using flaps 15 or 25 during the drop.

If we can get that clumpy thick appearance, I will be very happy. The key will be using the proper texture to set the base for this I think. Maybe something off one of these pictures will do it.

Thank you :jump:
 
Milton Shupe said:
TG72, that is exactly what we need to develop a better FX. It shows the solids and weight of the retardant, direction of travel with only small wisps of wind shearing the outer edges back. It is amazing how straight down the mass drops.

It also appears the aircraft is using flaps 15 or 25 during the drop.

If we can get that clumpy thick appearance, I will be very happy. The key will be using the proper texture to set the base for this I think. Maybe something off one of these pictures will do it.

Thank you :jump:
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No problem! I've always wanted a better retardant effect since all I fly in FS is tankers haha. It'll be awesome if you could make something like the pics. Ive heard from some pilots that sometimes they go full flaps for the drop.
 
tankerguy72 said:
No problem! I've always wanted a better retardant effect since all I fly in FS is tankers haha. It'll be awesome if you could make something like the pics. Ive heard from some pilots that sometimes they go full flaps for the drop.
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Probably a combo of speed reduction plus flaps downdraft helps push the retardant downward to target area?

I will work on a better FX; looking for the FX program that allows you to see changes without having to restart FS a thousand times. Anyone remember that program name?
 
Milton Shupe said:
Probably a combo of speed reduction plus flaps downdraft helps push the retardant downward to target area?

I will work on a better FX; looking for the FX program that allows you to see changes without having to restart FS a thousand times. Anyone remember that program name?
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I think drop speed is 120-150knots at about 150' agl. Too high or too fast retardant line is too thin, too low or slow and it wasted in a small area. It'd be nice to get the timing right also on how long it takes 1200gals to exit. There are some videos on YouTube, but they do mix up their drops though
 
tankerguy72 said:
I think drop speed is 120-150knots at about 150' agl. Too high or too fast retardant line is too thin, too low or slow and it wasted in a small area. It'd be nice to get the timing right also on how long it takes 1200gals to exit. There are some videos on YouTube, but they do mix up their drops though
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I now have the dump rate at 50 gallons per second for each of two 400 gallon tanks, so about 8 seconds per dump. I can up that capacity as necessary.

Also, I have the dump effect starting .5 seconds after the switch is hit.
 
Milton Shupe said:
I now have the dump rate at 50 gallons per second for each of two 400 gallon tanks, so about 8 seconds per dump. I can up that capacity as necessary.

Also, I have the dump effect starting .5 seconds after the switch is hit.
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Sounds good, but you do mean two 600 gal tanks right?
 
tankerguy72 said:
I think drop speed is 120-150knots at about 150' agl. Too high or too fast retardant line is too thin, too low or slow and it wasted in a small area. It'd be nice to get the timing right also on how long it takes 1200gals to exit. There are some videos on YouTube, but they do mix up their drops though
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Okay, found the info: before drop, Full Flaps, 120–130 knots, dive to target and drop at 150" AGL
 
Milton Shupe said:
Okay, found the info: before drop, Full Flaps, 120–130 knots, dive to target and drop at 150" AGL
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Then pull back smartly on the yoke! (Sorry, I couldn't resist!). The screen shots of Tankerguy's repaints look fantastic! Just like the real deal.... Good stuff, chaps!

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