Team United - Golden Age - Boeing 247D
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Leg#12 Completed.
Landed safely at YPDN Port Darwin.
Departed WRKK at 0554 Local Time. Conditions: Clear. Wind 189@2.
Gently climbed out of the bowl that surrounds the airport until I reached 2500'ASL and got out over the ocean. Slowly climbed to 8000'ASL, encountered 20Kt headwinds beginning about 3500'. After reaching 8000', I decided to drop back down to 3500' and smooth air. Was running 150 to 153Kts Indicated (171-181Kts GS).
An hour into the flight, Hdg 103 degrees , 155Kts IAS (183GS) at 3300' and a nice 20Kt tailwind.
At 0702 Local, I noticed heavy cloud-to-cloud lightening, turned Hdg 060 for about a minute to go around the thunderstorm. Back on heading 103, encountered whipping winds. Dropped to 3300' to get under the clouds. Winds started slapping me around and threw plane into Overspeed. IAS was 143Kts (136Kts GS).
0725 I was at 2960'ASL with thick clouds above and thick clouds below.. Both were "Strato-Rumbulus" ;-}
0735 I encountered turbulence and wind shear.. VSI was going +/- 500FPM.
Climbed to 6500'ASL and found smoother air.. it just wasn't real smooth. Speed down to 136IAS/134GS at full throttle..
At 7000'ASL the turbulence was gone. Winds 099@21. Speed 145IAS/143GS.
Ran into near zero visibility 7000'-7300', decided to drop back down to 3500'. Found open skies. Hdg 105, winds 095@20. Speed 154Kts IAS/GS.
0819 Picked-up NDB "DN" Darwin. (approx 75nm out).
Continued decent to 3500'.
0822 Accquired NDB "BGT" (approx 22nm out). My track was "dead-on".
0840 Sighted Airport.
0847. Wheels Stop.
445.1nm in 2hrs 55min 48sec and a Green Duenna!!
Charles (DHC120)
Landed safely at YPDN Port Darwin.
Departed WRKK at 0554 Local Time. Conditions: Clear. Wind 189@2.
Gently climbed out of the bowl that surrounds the airport until I reached 2500'ASL and got out over the ocean. Slowly climbed to 8000'ASL, encountered 20Kt headwinds beginning about 3500'. After reaching 8000', I decided to drop back down to 3500' and smooth air. Was running 150 to 153Kts Indicated (171-181Kts GS).
An hour into the flight, Hdg 103 degrees , 155Kts IAS (183GS) at 3300' and a nice 20Kt tailwind.
At 0702 Local, I noticed heavy cloud-to-cloud lightening, turned Hdg 060 for about a minute to go around the thunderstorm. Back on heading 103, encountered whipping winds. Dropped to 3300' to get under the clouds. Winds started slapping me around and threw plane into Overspeed. IAS was 143Kts (136Kts GS).
0725 I was at 2960'ASL with thick clouds above and thick clouds below.. Both were "Strato-Rumbulus" ;-}
0735 I encountered turbulence and wind shear.. VSI was going +/- 500FPM.
Climbed to 6500'ASL and found smoother air.. it just wasn't real smooth. Speed down to 136IAS/134GS at full throttle..
At 7000'ASL the turbulence was gone. Winds 099@21. Speed 145IAS/143GS.
Ran into near zero visibility 7000'-7300', decided to drop back down to 3500'. Found open skies. Hdg 105, winds 095@20. Speed 154Kts IAS/GS.
0819 Picked-up NDB "DN" Darwin. (approx 75nm out).
Continued decent to 3500'.
0822 Accquired NDB "BGT" (approx 22nm out). My track was "dead-on".
0840 Sighted Airport.
0847. Wheels Stop.
445.1nm in 2hrs 55min 48sec and a Green Duenna!!
Charles (DHC120)
Bry Rosier
Charter Member 2014
SOUND LIKE A nice flight Charles. Congratulation Guys on reaching Australia 
:ernae:
:ernae:
salt_air
Charter Member
Thanks!
Thanks Bry,,,,good of ya to stop by and give us a wave!
Best of luck with the SR22!! Keepin' an eye peeled on ya
Beer's on us when you get to Melbourne...
SOUND LIKE A nice flight Charles. Congratulation Guys on reaching Australia
Thanks Bry,,,,good of ya to stop by and give us a wave!
Best of luck with the SR22!! Keepin' an eye peeled on ya
Beer's on us when you get to Melbourne...
salt_air
Charter Member
Bry;SOUND LIKE A nice flight Charles. Congratulation Guys on reaching Australia
Thank You for the kind words.. Flight wasn't so nice, but the landing was a perfect "three pointer".. No doubt the best landing I've ever made.. no smoke came off the wheels. At first, I wasn't sure I had it on the runway ;-} Good to be "Down Under", finally..
Nice One here mate,,,,way to go!
Felt good dinnit?....
Cheers,
Salt;
Yup! I didn't smack into a light pole :isadizzy:..
Going to try to get in another flight in the morning.. see how it goes
.
salt_air
Charter Member
To Date:
We have 2 more checkpoints with 1 as the finish in Melbourne (YMEN).
Attaching txt file with Stats to Date for Team United. Most of it may help with a guess at flight time for the precision leg into YMEN. Some of it is just for curiosity. No fancy Excel Spreadsheets, just open with notebook and maximize or it won't read right.
Individual stats are only for the purpose of that pilot to figure his avg time for an "educated" guess as to what the time from Charleville (YBCV) to Melbourne (YMEN) might be.
Wind has been the biggest factor of the race for everyone, so be governed accordingly. That with the susceptibility for the 247D to overspeed make it prudent to NOT figure on being able to speed up the flight if it looks like you're running behind. Add some "cushion" to your figures that don't exceed the 5% tolerance allowed by the rules. Preset a couple (at least) of time checks along the way to monitor your progress. This is a precision leg and accuracy is more important than speed this late in the race.
There are no bad terrain issues except for certain runways at YMEN being hampered by buildings. Red will remember going in during the last RTW I'm sure. I would shoot a couple of approaches and even take a screenie or two to have hanging up in the cockpit just in case the vis goes to zero when you arrive. The runways aren't all that long, but long enough for a close to stall speed final and holding out for a last flare until after you can see the numbers at the end of the runway. You'll need to use the best one for winds, but also make the choice as per time left on the clock if you can.
There have been no flights flown, so far, the length of the flight straight from Charleville (YBCV) to Melbourne (YMEN). We need to divide or multiply the stats from shorter or longer flights. Not very accurate. May be best to bust up the flight to Charleville (YBCV) out of Darwin (YPDN) even though it's longer overall, just to get some better stats for this. We can also bust up the flight from Charleville (YBCV) to Melbourne (YMEN) and make use of some existing stats, whatever.
Not gonna win any Speed Races and the penalty will keep us out of the Handicap Race, no worries,,,but we can absolutely "nail" the Precision Leg.
Bust up the YPDN-YBCV leg for matters of record or bust up the leg from YBCV to YMEN to use what figures we have already OR,,,take the figures at hand a go with a "gut" guess that isn't too ambitious.
Wow that sure was alot of writing, I may need to think about decafe..
We could be done in 2 legs or as many as 4.
What do you guys think?
We have 2 more checkpoints with 1 as the finish in Melbourne (YMEN).
Attaching txt file with Stats to Date for Team United. Most of it may help with a guess at flight time for the precision leg into YMEN. Some of it is just for curiosity. No fancy Excel Spreadsheets, just open with notebook and maximize or it won't read right.
Individual stats are only for the purpose of that pilot to figure his avg time for an "educated" guess as to what the time from Charleville (YBCV) to Melbourne (YMEN) might be.
Wind has been the biggest factor of the race for everyone, so be governed accordingly. That with the susceptibility for the 247D to overspeed make it prudent to NOT figure on being able to speed up the flight if it looks like you're running behind. Add some "cushion" to your figures that don't exceed the 5% tolerance allowed by the rules. Preset a couple (at least) of time checks along the way to monitor your progress. This is a precision leg and accuracy is more important than speed this late in the race.
There are no bad terrain issues except for certain runways at YMEN being hampered by buildings. Red will remember going in during the last RTW I'm sure. I would shoot a couple of approaches and even take a screenie or two to have hanging up in the cockpit just in case the vis goes to zero when you arrive. The runways aren't all that long, but long enough for a close to stall speed final and holding out for a last flare until after you can see the numbers at the end of the runway. You'll need to use the best one for winds, but also make the choice as per time left on the clock if you can.
There have been no flights flown, so far, the length of the flight straight from Charleville (YBCV) to Melbourne (YMEN). We need to divide or multiply the stats from shorter or longer flights. Not very accurate. May be best to bust up the flight to Charleville (YBCV) out of Darwin (YPDN) even though it's longer overall, just to get some better stats for this. We can also bust up the flight from Charleville (YBCV) to Melbourne (YMEN) and make use of some existing stats, whatever.
Not gonna win any Speed Races and the penalty will keep us out of the Handicap Race, no worries,,,but we can absolutely "nail" the Precision Leg.
Bust up the YPDN-YBCV leg for matters of record or bust up the leg from YBCV to YMEN to use what figures we have already OR,,,take the figures at hand a go with a "gut" guess that isn't too ambitious.
Wow that sure was alot of writing, I may need to think about decafe..
We could be done in 2 legs or as many as 4.
What do you guys think?
Last Legs
Salt & Red;
My plan is to fly the YPDN-YTNK leg today (in a few minutes) and possibly try to squeeze in the YTNK-YBCV on Friday.
This would leave "open" a "single run" from Charlieville to Melborne (YBCV-YMEN) for our "Best" pilot (in other words, not me)..
Personally, I feel it would be better (time wise) to fly the YBCV-YMEN as a single leg.. You lose time & speed taking off and landing.
Or, am I misunderstanding and ALL pilots are required to fly the Precision Leg??
Salt & Red;
My plan is to fly the YPDN-YTNK leg today (in a few minutes) and possibly try to squeeze in the YTNK-YBCV on Friday.
This would leave "open" a "single run" from Charlieville to Melborne (YBCV-YMEN) for our "Best" pilot (in other words, not me)..
Personally, I feel it would be better (time wise) to fly the YBCV-YMEN as a single leg.. You lose time & speed taking off and landing.
Or, am I misunderstanding and ALL pilots are required to fly the Precision Leg??
srgalahad
Charter Member 2022
*I* think you've got the idea... now to make it work
Remember that the Precision Event gets some pretty close scutiny from the Committee and the punters hanging around the bar in the Windsor. (someone was muttering about the need for post-competition drug tests
).
Fly well guys!
Edit: No Charles, a pliot/team only gets one try at the YBCV-YMEN leg so all the glory/blame falls on one pair of shoulders... anyone else is just a "passenger".
Remember that the Precision Event gets some pretty close scutiny from the Committee and the punters hanging around the bar in the Windsor. (someone was muttering about the need for post-competition drug tests
). Fly well guys!
Edit: No Charles, a pliot/team only gets one try at the YBCV-YMEN leg so all the glory/blame falls on one pair of shoulders... anyone else is just a "passenger".
Leg #13 On The Ground!!
YPDN-YTNK Is In The Books!!
Departed Port Darwin 0741hrs Local. WX called for Light Clouds, wind 000/00 and 10mi Vis. I turned to heading 152 degrees and began a slow (300FPM) climb to 8500'.
That lasted a whole four minutes when at 0753 I got into a low ceiling and heavy clouds. I leveled off at 2600'AMSL to stay under the clouds.
I adjusted my heading to 149 degrees to compensate for the 11Kt winds at 085.
I fought near zero viz and quartering headwinds the entire distance of the flight.
I did "hunt around" for better "air", climbing as high as 9100' and "mowing grass" on the deck (well, as low as I dared in the thick clouds)..
About two hours into the flight, at around 5890', the wind abruptly changed from a 22Kt full-on headwind to an "up-the-tailpipes" tailwind.. I firewalled the throttles and enjoyed the 142Kts IAS and 179Kt Ground Speed. I was still flying in the "soup", tho..
As all good things come to an end, so did my tailwind after only fourteen minutes. This is when I climbed to 9000' to "look for it" again.
I played with the E6B and it believed the airport should be close (I was 2hrs40min into a 472nm flight).. I had not heard an NDB since I "lost" Port Darwin's (DN), so I began a slow decent, taking great pains NOT to hit Overspead.. So much for plans.. My speed was 156Kts IAS/163GS, running into a 20Kt headwind then "BLAM".. Overspeed warning lights up.. I pull the throttles, kill the Sperry and pull up on the yoke. Got 39sec of Overspeed!!
I got the bird smoothed out and running a nice and I'll be dipped if the Overspeed Warning didn't light-up again!! This time I KNOW wasn't exceeding 160Kts IAS.. My "speedometer" was showing 153Kts IAS/148GS
Go figure)..
At 1023hrs I acquired the NDB "TNK" (about 75nm out from Tennant Creek), the ADF Needle swung to "Straight Ahead"..
Tennant Creek is not a "straight-in approach", so I knew I'd have to deviate from the 152 degree heading to fly west of the airport then "turn in" to pick-up Rwy 7 (070 degrees). Between a couple of sheets of paper, pen and the E6B, I "figured" when I would need to turn to Hdg 180 (about 40nm out), then watched the ADF Needle come abeam 90 degrees to my left. I then turned to Hdg 070.. I wasn't "dead nuts" on.. but I wasn't off so far that I couldn't find the airport.. In fact, for a near zero visibility flight (I say 2000' max!), I did okay.. I landed long.. and I mean looooong.. I ran out of runway! I was really worried that MSFS would have a ditch or something to tear-off my landing gear.. but it didn't! But I got a Green Duenna!!
YPDN-YTNK Is In The Books!!
Departed Port Darwin 0741hrs Local. WX called for Light Clouds, wind 000/00 and 10mi Vis. I turned to heading 152 degrees and began a slow (300FPM) climb to 8500'.
That lasted a whole four minutes when at 0753 I got into a low ceiling and heavy clouds. I leveled off at 2600'AMSL to stay under the clouds.
I adjusted my heading to 149 degrees to compensate for the 11Kt winds at 085.
I fought near zero viz and quartering headwinds the entire distance of the flight.
I did "hunt around" for better "air", climbing as high as 9100' and "mowing grass" on the deck (well, as low as I dared in the thick clouds)..
About two hours into the flight, at around 5890', the wind abruptly changed from a 22Kt full-on headwind to an "up-the-tailpipes" tailwind.. I firewalled the throttles and enjoyed the 142Kts IAS and 179Kt Ground Speed
. I was still flying in the "soup", tho..As all good things come to an end, so did my tailwind after only fourteen minutes. This is when I climbed to 9000' to "look for it" again.
I played with the E6B and it believed the airport should be close (I was 2hrs40min into a 472nm flight).. I had not heard an NDB since I "lost" Port Darwin's (DN), so I began a slow decent, taking great pains NOT to hit Overspead.. So much for plans.. My speed was 156Kts IAS/163GS, running into a 20Kt headwind then "BLAM".. Overspeed warning lights up.. I pull the throttles, kill the Sperry and pull up on the yoke. Got 39sec of Overspeed!!
I got the bird smoothed out and running a nice and I'll be dipped if the Overspeed Warning didn't light-up again!! This time I KNOW wasn't exceeding 160Kts IAS.. My "speedometer" was showing 153Kts IAS/148GS
Go figure)..
At 1023hrs I acquired the NDB "TNK" (about 75nm out from Tennant Creek), the ADF Needle swung to "Straight Ahead"..
Tennant Creek is not a "straight-in approach", so I knew I'd have to deviate from the 152 degree heading to fly west of the airport then "turn in" to pick-up Rwy 7 (070 degrees). Between a couple of sheets of paper, pen and the E6B, I "figured" when I would need to turn to Hdg 180 (about 40nm out), then watched the ADF Needle come abeam 90 degrees to my left. I then turned to Hdg 070.. I wasn't "dead nuts" on.. but I wasn't off so far that I couldn't find the airport.. In fact, for a near zero visibility flight (I say 2000' max!), I did okay.. I landed long.. and I mean looooong.. I ran out of runway! I was really worried that MSFS would have a ditch or something to tear-off my landing gear.. but it didn't! But I got a Green Duenna!!
Nice pilot reports there Charles.
Thank You, Sir.. I figured, when you are sitting in one place for a couple of hours and have nothing better to do than stare at some gauges (until something goes wrong), why not take some notes and tell about the flight?
I realize that everyone is going the same thing, but not everyone is having the same issues, or lack of.. I got the idea to "write something" after Srgalahad (Rob) wrote an Accident Report about crash at VIAG Agra AB, India.
Red;
I also have commitments this weekend.. I plan on flying into Charleville tomorrow (going to make a day of it).. But can't do anything else till next week.. unless Salt-Air does the final leg, which is okay by me..
ISP Crapped Out
Red-Green & Salt-Air;
Got up this morning at 0655 (Texas Time) to get some coffee in me, set-up (my yoke, TQ's, etc.) and start the nearly 800nm leg from YTNK to YBCV. I found I had no internet connection at all.. Called the ISP (8-5 M-F & 8-12 on Sat) and waited for the Tech Dept to return my call.. knowing it could be days or weeks if it was a system-wide issue.
I anticipated "playing the game" of having to "go in (my computer) and check this & that" as well as doing several restarts, so I was reluctant to begin a 5+ hour flight, believing the ISP would call when I'm 3-4 hours into the flight.. so I waited..
Plus, I didn't know how the judges would look at posting the "About to depart", "Landed at" and the Duennas all at the same time..
As a result, I will not be able to fly the YTNK-YBCV Leg until Monday at the earliest and more likely on Wednesday.
Red-Green & Salt-Air;
Got up this morning at 0655 (Texas Time) to get some coffee in me, set-up (my yoke, TQ's, etc.) and start the nearly 800nm leg from YTNK to YBCV. I found I had no internet connection at all.. Called the ISP (8-5 M-F & 8-12 on Sat) and waited for the Tech Dept to return my call.. knowing it could be days or weeks if it was a system-wide issue.
I anticipated "playing the game" of having to "go in (my computer) and check this & that" as well as doing several restarts, so I was reluctant to begin a 5+ hour flight, believing the ISP would call when I'm 3-4 hours into the flight.. so I waited..
Plus, I didn't know how the judges would look at posting the "About to depart", "Landed at" and the Duennas all at the same time..
As a result, I will not be able to fly the YTNK-YBCV Leg until Monday at the earliest and more likely on Wednesday.
salt_air
Charter Member
Back On!
Sorry Team,
I got hit with the leftovers of hurricane Ida (that's short for hemorrhoid).
The usual crap 75mph gusts and 40-50mph sustained with a foot of rain. We call 'um Nor'easters. Get six or eight a year, but usually not this bad. Wet carpet, trees down, fences need fixin', crap everywhere, golf course still flooded.
Neighbors aggreed to meet Monday morning for a march on the insurance company, with torches pitch forks and maybe a ball bat or two..
Anyway internet was out till today, just now getting back on!
I don't want to steal you guys thunder,,,,I've had a go already and there's no rush we have till the end of the month.
But there's nothing I'd like to do better than come into YMEN < 10 secs. from estimated time...
Charles, get us into Charleville (after all it's not Redville or saltville, eh?) and then if you guys want me to run it in, then I'll at least set it up so you can be there for the landing, Hamachi or whatever.
Cheers,
Sorry Team,
I got hit with the leftovers of hurricane Ida (that's short for hemorrhoid).
The usual crap 75mph gusts and 40-50mph sustained with a foot of rain. We call 'um Nor'easters. Get six or eight a year, but usually not this bad. Wet carpet, trees down, fences need fixin', crap everywhere, golf course still flooded.
Neighbors aggreed to meet Monday morning for a march on the insurance company, with torches pitch forks and maybe a ball bat or two..
Anyway internet was out till today, just now getting back on!
I don't want to steal you guys thunder,,,,I've had a go already and there's no rush we have till the end of the month.
But there's nothing I'd like to do better than come into YMEN < 10 secs. from estimated time...
Charles, get us into Charleville (after all it's not Redville or saltville, eh?) and then if you guys want me to run it in, then I'll at least set it up so you can be there for the landing, Hamachi or whatever.
Cheers,