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CaptainScott

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For those of you who have the trackerIR:

How does that work? Is it really worth it?

I know it is supposed to follow the motion of your head as you fly, etc.

My question is, how do you continue to look at the screen to continue to see what you are supposedly turning around to see, without turning toward the screen or looking at the screen out of the corner of your eye?

I've been using the "hat" on the joystick to do this...is is all that much better using this trackerIR device?

My thanks to anyone who responds.
 
is it worth it? YES!!

It amplifies the movement of your head so with my setup moving my head from staring square to the screen to staring at the edge of the monitor translates in game to moving my head almost 180 degrees.....hard to explain, but have a look at the vids on the naturalpoint website, should make things clearer.
 
It's the best piece of sim gear I've ever bought! It was worth EVERY penny! Buy it, you won't be sorry!
 
Takes a couple of days before you are fully comfortable, after that...well, once you go track, you can never go back.
 
Will TrackIR work with any sim (auto/etc) that has pan FOV feature?

Andre
 
This will explain how it works
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AO0F5sLdVM

It doesn't work with ANY sim you happen to have

As a matter of fact you'll find anything that was NOT created, with trakir in mind, will gather dust

There is a rather extensive list of the games that do support it, at the manufacturers website. Natural Point

at $130 it's your most needed piece of kit, next to a joystick

They offer a discount if you buy through SOH

It's rather easy to hook up

http://trackir.info/instruction.htm
 
Some might argue I was sceptical about trackir. Fear of the unknown is closer to the truth. And it is pricey.

But after biting the bullet and diving in I discovered you really can teach an old dog new tricks ! There can be a bit of a learning curve and you need "head discipline" but put simply .... trackir ROCKS ! Well worth the price. Dogfights are way more manageable with more viewing freedom than the hatswitch pan. It's almost (but not quite) a cheat ! And because of that it's almost a prerequisite for OFF BHAH. We'll need all the help we can get.

If you can afford it and SWMBO is in a good mood just get it Scotty.
 
NOW after the OFF Developers did most of the Pick and Shovel work, Natural Point made drivers available to play CFS3/OFF with VISTA it was originally only with XP

The only restriction, is that Trackir is a bit of a Vampire. It doesn't like Direct Sunlight or powerful lamps in the room. Those things can make you nuts

Also a few unlucky pilots, never knew they got airsick, until they got a trackir.
When you first use one, keep a Barf Pail Handy, after a while you'll get used to it, or you'll start buying Dramamine Wholesale, or in extreme cases put an add here, before selling it on Ebay :kilroy:
 
OK, you've sold me.

Where do I need to go to get it? Any web addresses? Gimpy mentioned some place with a discount.

This should really add to the P3 experience--so I'm going for it!
 
Forget the last question guys. I just ordered it this morning...with the headset clip.

I don't dork around.
 
Good move - you won't regret it.

When you have it up and running you can modify the settings for up to 6 directions of movement (look up/look down, look left/look right, move left/move right, tilt left/tilt right, move forward/move reaward and move up/move down.

You can also adjust how it reacts to head movements (smooth, progressive, custom etc).

TrackIR can cause a slight decrease in frames per second when in-game, which is not desirable, especially with OFF. In my experiance and with a pretty powerful PC setup, its best in the TrackIR setup to select Custom for each head movement setting and don't adjust them. Otherwise, as I've found, playing around with the settings, even on my PC, can cause full screen stuttering and sometimes tearing (white flashes) at the edge of the view.
 
Good move - you won't regret it.

When you have it up and running you can modify the settings for up to 6 directions of movement (look up/look down, look left/look right, move left/move right, tilt left/tilt right, move forward/move reaward and move up/move down.

You can also adjust how it reacts to head movements (smooth, progressive, custom etc).

TrackIR can cause a slight decrease in frames per second when in-game, which is not desirable, especially with OFF. Otherwise, as I've found, playing around with the settings, even on my PC, can cause full screen stuttering and sometimes tearing (white flashes) at the edge of the view.

I have had trackir since trackir 1, way back. It is the best flight sim kit you can get after a good joystick.
I disagree with one or two statements made above.

1. The reason you get tearing at the screen edges is not trackir - It is the limitations of the system graphics. Those limitations cannot allow the "drawing" of the graphics fast enough to build the picture of what you want to see. So, move the hat switch quick enough on a limited system, you will get tearing. What you can do with trackir, is speed it up or slow it down in order to choose how fast you want to change the view. Like the hat switch, move too fast and tearing might result. But it's no problem - choose the right speed and there won;t be any tearing.Unless you're on an old system.

2. Trackir should not cause any loss of FPS . It never has on my computers.
But you can allow it to. What i mean here is that it depends on how you run things.
When you intend to fly, before starting the sim, you start trackir. A splash scren comes up on the monitor. If you now leave it there and start your sim, there is a chance of loss of FPS. However, if having started trackir you minimize the trackir splash screen, and then start the sim, there should be no loss. In fact, in the settings of trackir, you can programme it always to run minimized. But I do it manually.
A tip on flying it- You may wonder how much to move your head to get a particular amount of movement of trackir? Don't approach it like that. Use your imagination and really think you are in a cockpit. When looking ahead, pick something on the ground to look at ; or pick a direction, e.g 10 oclock , or 3 o'clock. And then, as if you were really in a cockpit, just look at that point or object. You'll find it is so realistic and natural, you won't be worrying about how far your head has moved.
Then gradually make the arc- of- looking,wider - until you can see 5 o'clock and 7 o'clock and even 6 o'clock.
Try all these first attempts in freeflight- (or FSX) - It will soon come naturally and then - ENJOY!
 
Thanks everyone for the great advice. I will surely use it when my TrackIR arrives.

I ordered it direct from the company, using ground shipment. Hopefully, it will ship within the next week or so, and shipping time should be 3-5 days.

I have a pretty decent rig already: Intel 3.16 Ghz processor, 1 terrabyte storage (in two hard drives), GeForce 9800 GX2 graphics, and I believe 8 gig of RAM (for all the good that does me running XP), so I should not have a hardware constraint running P3/CFS 3. I should be smokin' in all departments.
 
I have a pretty decent rig already: Intel 3.16 Ghz processor, 1 terrabyte storage (in two hard drives), GeForce 9800 GX2 graphics, and I believe 8 gig of RAM (for all the good that does me running XP), so I should not have a hardware constraint running P3/CFS 3. I should be smokin' in all departments.

Yes that's a good rig. Parky's the man to tell you what good if any all those 8 gigs of RAM are doing for XP Might even be counterproductive, - don't know, but Parky does-
Shame really that you haven't got Vista with all that Ram.

Just a word re settings in config. In CFS3 itself you can have all sliders at 5 - no problems.
But be careful re OFF- Best to start at 3 on Terrain and scenery and then look at 4 , and then ,if no problems, look at 5. but don't be surprised if 5 is no good.
CFS3 and OFF are not the same re graphics.

best of luck
 
I've considered going to Vista, but I thought MS was going to abandon it in-place in favor of a new operating system, so I've not forged ahead there, though I suppose I could do so at any point if I wanted. Also, the implementation choices in Vista are mind-boggling, with I guess the 64-bit being the most problematic in terms of backward compatibility.

Also, I thought I read that the majority opinion on here is that OFF P3 will run best (or at least, the most uncomplicated) on XP. So I've stayed with XP.

Can't wait to dive into the TrackIR world!

Was wondering one thing...can you peer forward and to the side and look at the ground?

Also, since P3 won't be out yet for a little while, what good flight sims does it work with. The only one out that I think is worth half a darn is IL2...and I noticed on the manufacturer site that it was only partially compatible (i.e., did not seem to support all the features)...though I am not certain how to interpret the chart they've posted.

Anyway, I really appreciate the great international response from the community. Am looking forward to piloting the hostile skies in OFF with TrackIR.
 
If you so desire, you can check-out your machine gun, and you'll find it difficult spotting for the artillary, although it can be done. That would be the best feature, of a high wing monoplane, if we get one :isadizzy::isadizzy:
 
Have faith Gimp. The Parasol will get done. Right Pol ;)
Pol ! Pooooooolllll ? Mr Polovvvvvvski ! Heeeelloooo ! Anybody there :kilroy:
 
Well, I just logged onto my email to find that my TrackIR has shipped. Even with ground transport, I would think I would get it by Friday, Monday at the very latest--so I should be able to get it up and running and configured for OFF way ahead of the scheduled release of P3...I guess rumored to occur on or about 7 December.

Can't wait!
 
I've considered going to Vista, but I thought MS was going to abandon it in-place in favor of a new operating system, so I've not forged ahead there, though I suppose I could do so at any point if I wanted.

I heard that too, but with this economic downturn, how many businesses will change again? It's my bet there won't be a new OS anytime soon.

Also, the implementation choices in Vista are mind-boggling, with I guess the 64-bit being the most problematic in terms of backward compatibility.

Also, I thought I read that the majority opinion on here is that OFF P3 will run best (or at least, the most uncomplicated) on XP. So I've stayed with XP.


From what i gather, most of the devs are on Vista now, Many say XP is a better system all round, but more RAM usage has got to be helpful in sims.



Was wondering one thing...can you peer forward and to the side and look at the ground?

Can you ever ! It's brilliant. Most other sims will work with trackir.
Il2 will, but the 6DOF features ( peering forward etc ) are iffy. Worked for me and now it doesn't !
Google "All aircraft arcade" - a good site re IL2 . Ask in the forums there.
Also, since P3 won't be out yet for a little while, what good flight sims does it work with. The only one out that I think is worth half a darn is IL2...

Best place it works now is F4 - in Open Falcon, as the latest is now called.

Best of luck
 
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