Unsuccesful conversion

[Shessi]

No probs, just a thought.

I know the feeling, it's like waiting for the kettle to boil..takes ages some of these large large FSDS file to build an mdl...lol.

Cheers

Shessi

 

[kelticheart]

Test flight report

Hi Allen,

I tried your converted mdl and now the control surfaces all look and work good. Unfortunately, the tailwheel still doesn't extend fully and the main gear suspension still shoots both wheels upwards as soon as the C.205 meets bumps on the ground. It's not a big deal when taking off from a paved runway, but in grass airfields it's quite bizarre to watch. Not only, in "hard" flight mode I crashed during takeoff 7 times out of 10 as soon as the shock absorbers started to work.

I increased their dampening in the aircraft.cfg, but I am afraid I'll have to increase it further.

Apart from the above, Manuele's C.205 flies well with IS4G's C.205 Flight Model. I am experimenting with the engine data, I want this model to reach her historical top speed in level flight of 650 kmh (403.891 mph). Right now, she is still about 62 mph short of the mark.

The VC is clearly visible, but I haven't started placing gauges in it. It'll be a challenge since the FS9 VC is totally incompatible with CFS2.

I am attaching for you the dp file with adjusted muzzle flashes and exhaust effect, plus a gauge-controlled exhaust effect for this model. I did not touch damage and crash boxes, I am not too good at modifying them.
You'll find also the adapted FM for you to try out and lightened glass textures, both for the cockpit and the VC, which I thought were too dark.

Let me know what do you think.

Cheers!
KH

 

[Allen]

Taill wheel is full down and matches how it is animated in gMax. If it needs to be down more it will have to be edited in gMax. This is not my doing. It was sent to me with the tail wheel how it is. The wheels shooting upwards is kind of my bad. That is because the *SIDE*_tire_still *SIDE*_tire_slow *SIDE*_tire_blurred dose not convert to CFS2 right. I will have to rename one of them to *SIDE*_tire and delete the other 2 tires.

 

[misson]

Taill wheel is full down and matches how it is animated in gMax. If it needs to be down more it will have to be edited in gMax. This is not my doing. It was sent to me with the tail wheel how it is. The wheels shooting upwards is kind of my bad. That is because the *SIDE*_tire_still *SIDE*_tire_slow *SIDE*_tire_blurred dose not convert to CFS2 right. I will have to rename one of them to *SIDE*_tire and delete the other 2 tires.

Haha!! I have a few models for u too! perhaps i can live with that trouble!

 

[Allen]

Here is both models with the flying off wheels fixed. Not only did i have to do the wheel rename but had to add the wheels to the Interior/VC model.

View attachment 16276

 

[kelticheart]

Triple WOW!!!

Here is both models with the flying off wheels fixed. Not only did i have to do the wheel rename but had to add the wheels to the Interior/VC model.

View attachment 16276

WOW, Allen!

This is pure magic! I don't understand what might be wrong with the tailwheel partially retracted, because the below screenies included in MVG3d's FS9 package show it fully extended, so it mustn't be a bug in the original Gmax code......

BUT I CAN SURE LIVE WITH IT! The wheels shooting up in the air was the real problem, I bet now the C.205 doesn't crash so easily on rough terrain. I can't wait to hurry home and try these new *.mdls!

Last night I re-did her prop discs, with the "Aeronautica Macchi" brand emblem, painted on each prop blade, leaving a light trace on the blurred disc.

Now I am facing a new problem, don't worry Allen you haven't anything to do with it! Manuele begged me to avoid using US or British-derived gauges in the Veltro 2d and VC panels, I will be uploading the conversion pack with Alphasim's C.205 2d bitmap, which is the best that I could find around.
The gauges will be a real problem, because 99% of the available Italian-looking ones are simply USAAF or RAF gauges translated. I even translated some of them, like the Throttle gauge I took from the stock F4F.

Sadly, some of the more look-alike gauges I have from Italian aircraft conversion packs uploaded do not work on my pc and I never understood why. We'll see....

THANK YOU!
KH

 

[beepee]

Nice job Keltch, Allen and other cfs2 gurus

WOW, Allen!

This is pure magic! I don't understand what might be wrong with the tailwheel partially retracted, because the below screenies included in MVG3d's FS9 package show it fully extended, so it mustn't be a bug in the original Gmax code......

BUT I CAN SURE LIVE WITH IT! The wheels shooting up in the air was the real problem, I bet now the C.205 doesn't crash so easily on rough terrain. I can't wait to hurry home and try these new *.mdls!

Last night I re-did her prop discs, with the "Aeronautica Macchi" brand emblem, painted on each prop blade, leaving a light trace on the blurred disc.

Now I am facing a new problem, don't worry Allen you haven't anything to do with it! Manuele begged me to avoid using US or British-derived gauges in the Veltro 2d and VC panels, I will be uploading the conversion pack with Alphasim's C.205 2d bitmap, which is the best that I could find around.
The gauges will be a real problem, because 99% of the available Italian-looking ones are simply USAAF or RAF gauges translated. I even translated some of them, like the Throttle gauge I took from the stock F4F.

Sadly, some of the more look-alike gauges I have from Italian aircraft conversion packs uploaded do not work on my pc and I never understood why. We'll see....

THANK YOU!
KH

Hi KH and Allen,
I converted in 2012 the MVG-MC205 and got the same problems with animation...
Thank to Allen, this problems of animation is cleared.
In 2012, I made a 2D panel from the VC view of the bird, and also special Italian working gauges with the "MVG looking style"
For that tweaked exiting gauges by changing the bitmaps by new one based on MVG/MC205 FS 2004 gauges bitmaps.
Here is the result of this work

Kelti, if you think this work can be helpful for your package, tell me. I can upload a zip of the panel file with the gauges in this thread. But you will have to ask the permission to use my tweaked gauges to MVG...

Cheers
Beepee

 

[mvg3d]

Hi Friends,
OK for the Beepee's modified gauges.
I simply asked to Stefano to use something similar to the Italian gauges in order to avoid to have typical US or GB (NON metric gauges scales) in the panel (as in other conversions in the past...).

 

[kelticheart]

Isn't this just great?

Isn't it fantastic how asking for a helping hand here at SOH results in such resource pooling?

Thank you, Beepee! Both panels would be fabolous and I am sure asking Manuele permission to re-upload his own gauges converted and working for CFS2 is not going to be a problem. After all, they are part of his MVG12 creation.

I wonder just how many secret works done by our talented members are out there.......DO UPLOAD YOUR TWEAKS GENTLEMEN! They are sure going to make a lot of kids happy around here. Asking for permissions is not a big deal, while intelligent owners of beautiful addons for civilian sims cannot deny that conversions for CFS2 don't do anything else but increasing the diffusion and credits for their work-of-arts.

Beepee, my e-mail is still kelticheart@libero.it. Send to me both of your panels for MVG3D's C.205 and I'll be more than glad to include them in this, yet another, SOH team effort to convert a splendid warbird for CFS2.

I just received another offer for Italian original gauge conversions from another friend of ours, Chalachew, previously known as mar.g, the creator of the original, stunning Malta scenery for CFS2 addon. To whom I deeply believe we owe many, many thanks for the enjoyment we all had out of Malta all of these years.

If Chalachew agrees to it, I am willing to post a specific Italian WWII gauge pack on his behalf so that we can improve the looks of our WWII Regia Aeronautica cockpits.

Cheers!
KH

 

[kelticheart]

Hi Friends,
OK for the Beepee's modified gauges.
I simply asked to Stefano to use something similar to the Italian gauges in order to avoid to have typical US or GB (NON metric gauges scales) in the panel (as in other conversions in the past...).

There, see?

Manuele just beat me to it!

And the list of contributing chaps is growing:

• MVG3d
• Allen
• Shessi
• Dvslats
• Beepee
• who else....?

Cheers!
KH

 

[Blood_Hawk23]

Ita Weapons...

Are there bombs for the Italian planes? I realizie this is a fighter but is there a weapons pack for them?

 

[UncleTgt]

William Dickens (Bismark13) did some Italian bombs

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=17&id=14233

 

[Rami]

Reply...

William Dickens (Bismark13) did some Italian bombs

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=17&id=14233

Speedy Gonzales that was fast! (Oops, sorry. Nowadays that's non-PC approved )

 

[mvg3d]

Are there bombs for the Italian planes? I realizie this is a fighter but is there a weapons pack for them?

Hi BloodHawk,

I made the following Italian bombs and bombing devices for my planes in GMax :

- 50Kgs/100Kgs/250Kgs and 500Kgs Bombs (used in Fiat CR.42, Breda Ba.65, C.R.D.A.Cant.Z.1007bis and C.R.D.A.Cant.Z.506B)
- Submunitions Dispenser (for Breda Ba.65)

I have also the standard Whitehead Italian Torpedo (with tail fins for airborne use) used by all the Italian Torpedo Bombers (by Italianwings, used in Savoia Marchetti SM.79)

Dimensions and shapes are from Regia Aeronautica's original manuals.

If someone is interested.........

 

[Blood_Hawk23]

I'm interested

Were there any difference in style or dimensions from the Italian Army or Navy bombs? I've been having trouble finding information on them. Most I've found so far are for the 100 kg and 250 kg.

here is what I have found so far...

approximate dimensions of the 100kg GP HE. L 51.3" (130cm) Dia 10.7" (25cm) containing 50kg of TNT or Amatol.

approximate dimensions of the 250kg GP HE. L 73.8" (187cm) Dia 17.6" (45cm) containing 126kg of TNT.

That came from a web site.

Now if I could only find some WWI bombs.

 

[Wayland]

BH, I have a PDF of a US DOD TM on Italian and French ordnance, I'll try and dig it out and reference that for you. I don't remember any seperate call outs for specific Army or Navy weapons, but it's been several years since I looked at it.

I'll be intermittent with my presence for another week or so, the cooling fan in my only online capable 'puter has gone west, and Amazon can't get another to me untill next week, so I'm only online for about half an hour at a time, with a two hour cool down break to keep from frying the laptop.

I will find it sometime today.

Steve

 

[Blood_Hawk23]

Whats wrong with Speedy. He was the good guy remember.

 

[misson]

Thank u to all people involved on this plane! glad to have this italian beast in cfs2 , i wanted to have it for a long, and all at the end comes.

 

[Wayland]

Unsucessful conversion

BH, I checked the PDF file and there were no callouts for different versions, RM vs RA. It appears that both organisations used the same bombs, like the US A/N series ordnance family.

Steve

 

[mvg3d]

BH, I checked the PDF file and there were no callouts for different versions, RM vs RA. It appears that both organisations used the same bombs, like the US A/N series ordnance family.

Steve

Hi Wayland,
RM never had an own Air Force (since 1923 until the AV8B purchase.....), please take a look at the C.R.D.A.Cant.Z.506 history (By FSAviator & me) included in my '506B package, in the txt You'll find the history of RA planes used in collaboration with RM.