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Virtavia E-2C Released

So none of you read either the Virtavia Website or the earlier posts in this thread?

It is a timed exclusive on Steam. It will be available through the usual channels for FSX Boxed (and assumingly P3D) on July 5.

Also that release will be the one which has the liveries in it.

And to answer the question about porting over from FSX:SE to P3D the answer is sadly no. Steam DRM encrypts the model files and prevents them from being used outside of FSX:SE.

Safe Skies

Novawing24
 
Hmm.. exclusive for now maybe otherwise this point wouldn't have been added.. Accurately modelled and working catapult launch system (FSX Acceleration req'd).

Will it go FSX/ACC or is this a bit of poor editing by Virtavia?
ATB
DaveB:)
 
Novawing24 said:
And to answer the question about porting over from FSX:SE to P3D the answer is sadly no. Steam DRM encrypts the model files and prevents them from being used outside of FSX:SE.
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How's that supposed to work?
FSX can only deal with a single model file format.
 
Novawing24 said:
So none of you read either the Virtavia Website or the earlier posts in this thread?

It is a timed exclusive on Steam. It will be available through the usual channels for FSX Boxed (and assumingly P3D) on July 5.

Also that release will be the one which has the liveries in it.

Novawing24
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What the site says is this: "Available NOW exclusively via the Dovetail Games FSX Steam Edtion portal, only $19.99 until July 5." I understand that as the model being available at the price of $19.95 until July 5th. Unless I completely missed it, there's nothing on the site that mentions the model being made available for FSX-A or P3D after that date. Maybe someone from Virtiavia will chime in and clarify their plans for this model?
 
iflyfsx214 said:
I wonder if it will ever be availabe for fsx classic or p3d at anytime in the future
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It will not be available to purchase outside of FSX-SE. It was made exclusively for DTG.

But, I did test it in FSX-Acceleration and P3Dv3 during development.
:ernaehrung004:
 
Novawing24 said:
So none of you read either the Virtavia Website or the earlier posts in this thread?

It is a timed exclusive on Steam. It will be available through the usual channels for FSX Boxed (and assumingly P3D) on July 5.

Also that release will be the one which has the liveries in it.

And to answer the question about porting over from FSX:SE to P3D the answer is sadly no. Steam DRM encrypts the model files and prevents them from being used outside of FSX:SE.

Safe Skies

Novawing24
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What are you smoking because I want some. Let's go down the list.

1) Sale price ends on July 4th. No change after that -- it was made exclusively for DTG and will remain that way.

2) Don't know what liveries you are talking about. We did two with no markings. None to follow unless folks who buy it want to make some.

3) See my post above about using it in boxed FSX and P3D. I tested it during development and it works in both.

4) There is no Steam DRM. You simply copy the aircraft folder and a couple effects files over. Done.
:ernaehrung004:
 
Bjoern said:
Virtavia has ported their entire range of old add-ons to Steam and that's probably the route they're going in the future.
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Entire range? Not hardly. Anyway, it is just another market. All products are still sold as they always have been and will continue to be.

To you second point, not at all. This is so far a one-off opportunity to make something exclusively for DTG.
Many developers have been contracted to make exclusive content for Dovetail Games and not stopped making products for boxed FSX or P3D.

We've already started on the next product and it is not for DTG. You will no doubt be able to buy it from them but also everywhere else.
:ernaehrung004:
 
DaveB said:
Hmm.. exclusive for now maybe otherwise this point wouldn't have been added.. Accurately modelled and working catapult launch system (FSX Acceleration req'd).

Will it go FSX/ACC or is this a bit of poor editing by Virtavia?
ATB
DaveB:)
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That's the fault of DTG's marketing copywriters who think they know how to drum up business but have no sense of what people are really interested in. Virtavia didn't write any of the tripe.
The "exclusive" bit is the fact that it will always by a DTG exclusive product.

Believe me when I say that both Mal998 and myself were both very conflicted during development knowing how this one was going to go down in the end -- exclusively through DTG and all that that means.

FSX-SE is on sale at the moment for $10 I think. Maybe even less during the sale starting next week. I know everyone likes having physical CDs that they can hold in their hands but let Steam store it for you -- they have continued to fix things in the sim we all play that Microsoft abandoned nearly a decade ago. And granted this one aircraft isn't the only reason to get the Steam version but there are and will be others from other developers available only via Steam going forward.

Please read all of my comments above. Sorry I got here late to answer some questions.
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fsafranek said:
It will not be available to purchase outside of FSX-SE. It was made exclusively for DTG.
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Well, that settles that. I'm going on record as noting that this was a very bad move which has shut us FSX-A/P3D users out of the market to buy the model (one which many of us have been waiting a long time for). Okay, I'm moving on beyond this matter & thread now and will await a quality E-2 from another vendor (if that ever comes to pass). I wish you guys luck with this and other models in the future.
 
fsafranek said:
What are you smoking because I want some. Let's go down the list.

1) Sale price ends on July 4th. No change after that -- it was made exclusively for DTG and will remain that way.

2) Don't know what liveries you are talking about. We did two with no markings. None to follow unless folks who buy it want to make some.

3) See my post above about using it in boxed FSX and P3D. I tested it during development and it works in both.

4) There is no Steam DRM. You simply copy the aircraft folder and a couple effects files over. Done.
:ernaehrung004:
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Thanks for the official response, allow me to elaborate my initial post.

1) That was an interpretation that can be placed on the notice on your website as the notice was vague and other vendors have in the past released as a timed exclusive for FSX:SE.

2) Other vendors such as Carenado and Aerosoft have made options for other colourschemes available either as a non-FSXSE edition release or as a free update upon request

3 & 4) Great to know you have tested it in P3D / Boxed. However other aircraft / scenery sold via FSX:SE are encrypted with DRM which makes them unusable in other platforms (Uhu, A2A Shockwave lights, Piper Cub, Aerosoft F-16, Manhattan, Kilaminjaro just to name a few) so again a logical assumption. If I am proved incorrect (and I truly hope I am) then no problems, however that would mark it as a rare exception in the FSX:SE library of addons.

Novawing24

*edit: just received an email from the team re-confirming it is an FSX:SE exclusive permanently.*
 
Nowadays I have two FSX installs: the boxed version and the Steam version. I fly the Steam version almost all of the time. It looks better, has better frs and has better autogen. No wonder: DTG has upgraded the sim a bit. I bought it for five dollars in a sale. Never regretted that!

I couldn't resist buying this latest offering from DTG/Virtavia as I flew CLP almost exclusively the past year. After all: the Virtavia Savage was and is still present in my hangar and is still flown regularly. And now the Hawkeye: I'm very pleased with this girl so far. Great on the framerates and it has a good looking 'office'.

I havn't tested the systems yet.

:wavey:

Cees

Now where's that paintkit? :biggrin-new:
 
StormILM said:
Well, that settles that. I'm going on record as noting that this was a very bad move which has shut us FSX-A/P3D users out of the market to buy the model (one which many of us have been waiting a long time for). Okay, I'm moving on beyond this matter & thread now and will await a quality E-2 from another vendor (if that ever comes to pass). I wish you guys luck with this and other models in the future.
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I agree, it seems like a not very good idea to exclude customers or deny them a choice.
 
Look guys, let's face reality. FSX on steam is the way to go. For a lousy ten bucks you can have a version of FSX that runs smoothly, is better looking, doesn't crash and is always there if you need to reinstall. No more going through that MS bull trying to get it re-registered. I have both boxed and steam edition on my rig and I haven't opened the boxed in months.

i do wish there was a way to buy it for P3D.
 
Novawing24 said:
So none of you read either the Virtavia Website or the earlier posts in this thread?

It is a timed exclusive on Steam. It will be available through the usual channels for FSX Boxed (and assumingly P3D) on July 5.

Also that release will be the one which has the liveries in it.

And to answer the question about porting over from FSX:SE to P3D the answer is sadly no. Steam DRM encrypts the model files and prevents them from being used outside of FSX:SE.

Safe Skies

Novawing24
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Novawing24 can we expect a review video on it anytime soon?
 
b52bob said:
Look guys, let's face reality. FSX on steam is the way to go. For a lousy ten bucks you can have a version of FSX that runs smoothly, is better looking, doesn't crash and is always there if you need to reinstall. No more going through that MS bull trying to get it re-registered. I have both boxed and steam edition on my rig and I haven't opened the boxed in months.

i do wish there was a way to buy it for P3D.
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No even $10 at the moment. $7.49. That's a meal at a fast food place for a refreshed version of FSX.

Anyway, good traps.
 
if i didn't already own it,id.....................................buy FSX-SE......seems pretty simple in my lil noggin...buy it while its now at $7 something,then in future id have it and wouldn't comment about how unfair it all is ,but thats just me.....:biggrin-new:
 
Are the textures set up to allow some of the more fancy looking E-2 paints? i.e. top of the Radome non mirrored fuselage?

I will definitely be picking this up when I have the money.
 
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