Weird Plane photo-

Ala Littoria - Savoia-Marchetti S.M.79

I would agree that the trimotor in the back is a Savoia-Marchetti

I would say it is a S.M.79

Ala Littoria had a Roma - Paris Route that ended in 1938???

The Round object in the left does look alot like a Bouncing Bomb......but would they leave one lying around willy nilly???The Germans did recover one after the famous dam buster run???

The British only had one trimotor and it was a high wing engine below the wing.

Ala Littoria went military and flew all over the axis controlled countries after war broke out?
 
Rockster234 said:
I would agree that the trimotor in the back is a Savoia-Marchetti

I would say it is a S.M.79

Ala Littoria had a Roma - Paris Route that ended in 1938???

The Round object in the left does look alot like a Bouncing Bomb......but would they leave one lying around willy nilly???The Germans did recover one after the famous dam buster run???

The British only had one trimotor and it was a high wing engine below the wing.

Ala Littoria went military and flew all over the axis controlled countries after war broke out?
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What you are calling a bouncing bomb is actually the boiler from 68 Chevy.:jump:
 
PJMack said:
What you are calling a bouncing bomb is actually the boiler from 68 Chevy.:jump:
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Damn....I knew I'd seen it somewhere else before, it was like the boiler for my first computer until I got this modern Babbage Mk4 with 80 mousepower/hour (mph).

regards Collin Mk2:ernae:
 
Collin said:
Damn....I knew I'd seen it somewhere else before, it was like the boiler for my first computer until I got this modern Babbage Mk4 with 80 mousepower/hour (mph).

regards Collin Mk2:ernae:
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Damn Collin,

The problems with your computer might not be the OS but rather the terrible smoke cloud from stoking the boiler.

PJ:salute:
 
Person of interest

I am giving up ..........I feel I am stirring up bones

Ghost from some airplane graveyard............

I will quit with one last question..........what is the person doing on the right side of the frame

Looks like........taking a picture????????

Tourists...........

(RCAF Hat??? German or Italian? ..... I give up)
 
Rockster234 said:
I am giving up ..........I feel I am stirring up bones

Ghost from some airplane graveyard............

I will quit with one last question..........what is the person doing on the right side of the frame

Looks like........taking a picture????????

Tourists...........

(RCAF Hat??? or Italian? ..... I give up)
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Rock,

Its all in good fun. Maybe this helps. I manuvered the plane in photoshop for a clearer side view.

PJ:jump:
 
WRITING

has anyone noticed that there appears to be id numbers on the right stabilizer? I can't seem to get it large enough to read.
The guy in front appears to be taking a picture. Remember some of the cameras in this era were look down viewfinders.
 
Decoy Site ...........

1937, A batch of six Farman NC 224's were built for Air France - and rejected by the customer. The machines were sold to Armee de l'Air (French Air Force) and worked as military transport.

September 1939 Phony aircraft: The air decoys had to be cheap, mobile, easy to assemble and lifelike as viewed from the air. After receiving high cost estimates(2,000 lbs) from the aircraft industry, Colonel Turner turned to the British movie industry. The movie industry, which makes its living by constructing cheap imitations of real places and objects proved successful at building the planes for a quarter of the price estimated by the aircraft industry. Outdated and unfixable planes also proved successful decoys and thus sustained a useful purpose beyond there intended lifespans

On the 10th May 1940, the day that the Germans began their offensive through Belgium and Holland, RAF 271 Squadron received a number of Bristol Bombay bomber-transports and immediately used them and the Harrows to ferry troop reinforcements to France. The Squadron was heavily engaged in the transport of troops and materiel to the continent throughout May, and to assist them in this task they received additional aircraft of all shapes and sizes; included amongst which were civil airliners, several Savoia-Marchetti SM.73P's from Belgium, a Ford 5-AT Trimotor (the only such aircraft in the RAF) and three of the very large and extraordinarily shaped Imperial Airway Handley Page 42's.
 
Epilog: Compilation of Aircraft

The nose and cockpit glass I believe is some civil transport bashed in and squashed.

Similiar aircraft

Blackburn CA15c
Airspeed Ferry
Potez 650
etc...

Location is either Britian, France or Belgium sometime between 1939 and 1940 -1941
 
PJMack said:
Damn Collin,

The problems with your computer might not be the OS but rather the terrible smoke cloud from stoking the boiler.

PJ:salute:
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Could be, the smoke seems to choke all the little pixies that form my screen, after half an hour there's a load of em dead an dying at the bottom of the frame with big gaps in the picture. The smoke leaves a stain on the ceiling and the dead pixies leave a stain on the table top.:bump:

regardless Collin mk1:ernae:
 
Savoia-Marchetti ........the Boeing 737 or the day

I had a Savoia-Marchetti SM.73 left over...................

Savoia-Marchetti Must have been the B-737 or the 1930's

and I agree it was a look down camera..............which branch of service and who's side???

German soldier on leave in france after occupation or a RAF RCAF intelligence recording the decoy???

White strip on back of hat or helmet or something shinning?? does he have earphones on and is that a recording device on his bum?

or is it just a camera case........

its it a he or she???

And if taking pictures why was someone taking pictures of someone taking pictures?

Kinda like a tourist attraction ..........everyone is snapping shots from different angles
 
WE WILL NEVER KNOW

I think that this will go down as one of those WT-? items. I came across a reference that stated that all the records of Chievres airfield (according to another website posting is where this photo was alledgedly taken) were destroyed in a bonfire when the Germans withdrew. So whoknew? Unless someone becomes a sevant it will be a mystery for the ages? Maybe it was the beginning of a Phoenix plane!
 
Dewoitine D.750

I listed Chievres farman and it looks like alot of other sites are finding the combination.........

Dewoitine D.750 or SNCAO CA-600

I was looking at tails being the nose ..........and I believe that is the case

the cockpit and nose of the mystery aircraft is the tail section of a SNCAO CA-600

Which make this a french site or belgian..........

so its the parts laid out of a SNCAO CA-600 and maybe some others????

Probably a German soldier taking photos after occupation
 
while I cant add more to help id it I dont think its french and the pic possibly wasnt taken in france, I didnt think that was a ju52 from the first time I saw the pic. im thinking this is Italian and have looked for similar ac but cant find squat.
 
If you blow up the photo that MaskRider originally started the thread with you will see some other things not yet mentioned.

The kid wearing a duffel coat by the 'boiler'.

What looks like a little girl inside the the hole under the cockpit of the nearest aircraft, her coat, legs and feet in the hole and her head can just be seen through the glass.

Daft one...
The maybe carcass of an Italian underwater chariot on the ground beneath the wing join of the nearest aircraft.

Italian markings on the tailplane.

Have you noticed that there is no discernable entrance to the aircraft? Except where the little girl is. The same sort of possible entrance can be seen just behind the man on the right for the second aircraft.

The man on the right is wearing a tool belt and has a quite modern face protector on.
When did rotory grinders come into use?

regards Collin:ernae:
 
SNACO C.A.O-600

SNACO C.A.O-600 Operational History


The first prototype made its maiden flight on 21 March 1940, being flown from Villacoublay to Istres on 31 March. It had completed 35 flying hours by 25 June when the test programme was stopped by the French surrender to Germany. The second prototype, which differed in having the folding wings required for carrier operations, was abandoned incomplete, while the first prototype was dismantled and stored until it was finally scrapped following the German occupation of Southern France in November 1942

I was wondering what the hole in the side by nose was.............Tail Wheel Carriage and hole

So it may be a shot of southern france or hauled to switzerland or italy and photographed???
 
Swiss Uniform .......Shine off buttons

Possible it was the Swiss soldiers??

Shine off bass buttons on back of the hat
 
ENTRANCEWAY

Here are some things to consider re; the WT? plane.
If you really look close at a enlarged picture you may be able to discern ;
(a)the straight lines of a possible ramp opening in the front of the aircraft.

(b)The boiler at the rear looks like a fuel container. Several pictures of Italian aircraft seem to show these behind the planes. Possible garbage left over.

(c)The "person" at the rear of the plane appears, to me, to be a illusion as it more looks like a lower extension of the rear stabilizer.

(d) has anyone noticed that there is a squadron marking on the side of the plane on the right? Consists of a wide white horizontal intersected at a apparent 45 degree angle by two thinner white bars. This appears to be on a black field that is shield shaped. Same appears on foreground plane but is hidden by the sawhorses. Any squadron fanatics out there?

(e) The tail stabilizers are tricolored. Sequence appears to lean towards Italian planes.

(f) There are markings on the interior surface of the far stabilizer that are hard to discern.

(g) person is wearing jack boot style boots and appears to be a dress utility belt. Possible crew member of the plane in the background? Hat appears to be a enlisted mans field cap.

(h) on the fusalage there seems to be the remnant of a circular emblem.

These carcasses all appear to be remnants and boneyard . Notice no wings, struts or other usable objects in the photo? What appear to be guns maybe nothing but tubular support structures for something else.

Just some things I noticed.
 
Seeing things in photos that aren't really there

Just to keep this thread going a bit longer........

and to be abit annoying.............

I still find it interesting that the soldier is sitting on a sabotaged Anti-Aircraft Searchlight or runway light in the left side of picture

How would the french sabotage a searchlight before evacuating???

1. push out the light housing from the gimble and break mirror and light
2. tip over the gimble
3 set on fire and burn of tires rubber from the carraige

I think I am stretching the truth.......pretty grainy photo


If you see that

here is another wierd photo analysis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv9f-s0KmOU
 
Rockster234 said:
I would agree that the trimotor in the back is a Savoia-Marchetti

I would say it is a S.M.79

Ala Littoria had a Roma - Paris Route that ended in 1938???

The Round object in the left does look alot like a Bouncing Bomb......but would they leave one lying around willy nilly???The Germans did recover one after the famous dam buster run???

The British only had one trimotor and it was a high wing engine below the wing.

Ala Littoria went military and flew all over the axis controlled countries after war broke out?
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Belgium used the SM 75...
 
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