Yo Rami! A small preview of the Italian sceneries

[Rami]

Reply...

Stefano,

Sorry, I missed downloading this! I will test it this evening, get in contact with Achim, and report back.

 

[kelticheart]

Take it easy!

Stefano,

Sorry, I missed downloading this! I will test it this evening, get in contact with Achim, and report back.

Hi there, no worries, I know about your life schedule!

Achim wrote me two days ago, letting me know his pc is following the same fate as your laptop. Since he hadn't budgeted a new machine, he is planning to get another one in a little while.

Therefore, we'll have to be patient for the new Ramitelli and the other Foggia airfield complex strips he wants to do. I asked him to let me know where I can assist him in finding info and data about Italian airfields, mentioning also the location problem with Milano-Linate.

We'll have to wait. I just spent Liberation Day holyday weekend, (April 25th, 1945) in Torino with me hon. We visited the Egyptian Museum, which is supposed to be the second more important museum of Ancient Egypt for variety and number of finds in the world, after the more famous one in Cairo, London being the third. I took the opportunity to take a peek at Torino-Caselle airport, which is supposed to be the same Achim calls Venaria.

Venaria Reale was the hunting lodge of the ancient Savoia royal family. Over the centuries, it was built into a complex of palaces and became a country town, the airport lays just north of Venaria Reale centre of town. I could not see anything resembling the WWII layout, but I got a pretty good idea about how to proceed with Achim's scenery.

Meanwhile, I am almost ready to upload a new set of props for Akemi/Daedalus' new FW190A and F series......

Cheers!
Stef

 

[kdriver]

Hi Stef,

I just had a fly around northern Italy to inspect your work. You've done a fantastic job! You've really enhanced Achim's lovely airfields. The River Po bridges look great.

I think you should also publish what you've done so far to the British airfields.

Well done ,

Kevin

 

[kelticheart]

Hi Stef,

I just had a fly around northern Italy to inspect your work. You've done a fantastic job! You've really enhanced Achim's lovely airfields. The River Po bridges look great.

I think you should also publish what you've done so far to the British airfields.

Well done,

Kevin

Thank you Kevin!

The RAF airfield project is momentarily on hold, but I completely revamped most of those too. Over the years, I learned to distinguish the best fps performing objects from the worst ones and, in the process, I realised my earliest gsl work, both on Achim's and Pen32Win's 2TAF sceneries, was filled with "framehog" objects.

Then came Canion's great ETO object libraries while Pen discovered, and fixed, the Gary20's RAF objects bug, which I found plagues also Xavierb2's objects, particularly his ETO hangars and some of his warehouses. Ultimately, Captain Kurt released stock objects repainted in ETO style, stock objects being the best fps performers.

Therefore I HAD TO go over all of what I did. The Cees Donker's RAF object library recently uploaded is another invitation to put the British airfield projects back on my active list, now that those objects are available to everybody. I'll have to test this new library to see how it impacts framerate.

I hope, some day to be able to release ALL ETO sceneries revisited. Achim's and Pen's, because Achim's simpler layouts in my opinion fit very well the first half of the conflict, while Pen's more complex sceneries are great for the latter part of ETO WWII.

Not only, I had started working on the original Gary20's BoB airfields also, coupling them with Rami's layouts where necessary. I intend to complete and release them too, but it'll take a while before everything will be completed!

Cheers!
Stef

 

[Rami]

Reply...

Stefano,

I finally got a chance to test these three airfields. I concur with what Kevin said, these bases along with the Po River bridges are fantastic!

 

[kelticheart]

Stefano,

I finally got a chance to test these three airfields. I concur with what Kevin said, these bases along with the Po River bridges are fantastic!

Thanks to both you and Kevin!

Since I started Torino-Venaria (Caselle), I was thinking that at this point, once Torino is completed, I could make a JHS/KH Northern Italy pack and upload it. Rather than just attaching appetizers to a forum thread, it's high time I offered a main course dish....

If and when Achim will be able to adjust the problems I pointed out earlier, which are:

1. correcting the takeoff/landing direction in Free Flight for Piacenza-San Damiano
2. moving Milano Linate to the correct coordinates (this would allow building also a pier structure and a civilian airport structure for the Idroscalo)
3. adding Montichiari runway to the Ghedi scenery

then I will upload an update pack.

I would advise Achim to break down his Italian pack in Northern, Central and Southern Italy as I did. It makes gsl work and installation easier and much less less overwhelming when thinking to do any kind of update, improvement or modification.

Historically the three parts of the boot are divided as the picture I attached:

• Northern Italy: the Po Valley from the Alps to the Appennini Northern side bordering it;
• Central Italy: from the Appennini Southern side bordering the Po Valley to the border set by three regions South of Roma, Lazio, Abruzzo and Molise;
• Southern Italy: South of the above, including the two major islands of Sardegna and Sicilia.

Cheers!
Stef

 

[Captain Kurt]

Kelticheart you're forcing my hand before all is done but you may want to add these as well when you are ready

I'm adding to the airfields in Italy as I work through the development of the 82nd Fighter Group Campaign. It always seems that no matter how many airfields are made by others I somehow pick a group that never used or attacked any of them. So I'm left to make the fields. So far I have these new fields (as well as 1 English, 2 Algerian and 2 Tunisian fields) and expect to need to make more as I go on:

[runway.240]
id=8731
name=Italy - San Pancrazio
base_lat=N40 25.93
base_lon=E17 51.53
base_alt=143
heading=321
allegiance=0
units_across=2
takeoff_start_pos=100,0
takeoff_stop_pos=1600,200
landing_start_pos=5000,350
landing_touchdown_pos=550,0
landing_stop_pos=-250,0

[runway.241]
id=8732
name=Italy - Lecce
base_lat=N40 20.94
base_lon=E18 13.78
base_alt=112
heading=330
allegiance=0
units_across=2
takeoff_start_pos=100,0
takeoff_stop_pos=1600,200
landing_start_pos=5000,350
landing_touchdown_pos=550,0
landing_stop_pos=-250,0

[runway.242]
id=8733
name=Italy - Foggia Vincenzo
base_lat=N41 16.22
base_lon=E16 10.37
base_alt=184
heading=20
allegiance=0
units_across=2
takeoff_start_pos=100,0
takeoff_stop_pos=1600,200
landing_start_pos=5000,350
landing_touchdown_pos=550,0
landing_stop_pos=-250,0

[runway.243]
id=8734
name=Sardinia - Villacidro
base_lat=N39 25.49
base_lon=E08 46.32
base_alt=581
heading=160
allegiance=0
units_across=6
takeoff_start_pos=100,0
takeoff_stop_pos=1600,200
landing_start_pos=5000,350
landing_touchdown_pos=550,0
landing_stop_pos=-250,0

[runway.244]
id=8735
name=Sardinia - Olbia Landing Field
base_lat=N40 56.28
base_lon=E09 30.12
base_alt=2
heading=122
allegiance=0
units_across=6
takeoff_start_pos=100,0
takeoff_stop_pos=1600,200
landing_start_pos=5000,350
landing_touchdown_pos=550,0
landing_stop_pos=-250,0

[runway.245]
id=8736
name=Sardinia - Olbia SP
base_lat=N40 55.69
base_lon=E09 32.23
base_alt=0
heading=90
allegiance=0
units_across=6
takeoff_start_pos=100,0
takeoff_stop_pos=1600,200
landing_start_pos=5000,350
landing_touchdown_pos=550,0
landing_stop_pos=-250,0

[runway.246]
id=8737
name=Sardinia - Alghero Airfield
base_lat=N40 37.52
base_lon=E08 17.19
base_alt=56
heading=202
allegiance=0
units_across=2
takeoff_start_pos=-30000,0
takeoff_stop_pos=1600,200
landing_start_pos=5000,350
landing_touchdown_pos=550,0
landing_stop_pos=-250,0

 

[dvslats]

Infrastructure?

Hi KH,

Can you tell me which package has the "windsock_s" ?

Thanks, Dave

 

[Rami]

Reply...

Dvslats,

Here: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=45&id=2107

 

[dvslats]

Dvslats,

Here: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=45&id=2107

Thanks Rami.

 

[kelticheart]

Kelticheart you're forcing my hand before all is done but you may want to add these as well when you are ready

I'm adding to the airfields in Italy as I work through the development of the 82nd Fighter Group Campaign. It always seems that no matter how many airfields are made by others I somehow pick a group that never used or attacked any of them. So I'm left to make the fields. So far I have these new fields (as well as 1 English, 2 Algerian and 2 Tunisian fields) and expect to need to make more as I go on:

[runway.240]
id=8731
name=Italy - San Pancrazio
base_lat=N40 25.93
base_lon=E17 51.53
base_alt=143
heading=321
allegiance=0
units_across=2
takeoff_start_pos=100,0
takeoff_stop_pos=1600,200
landing_start_pos=5000,350
landing_touchdown_pos=550,0
landing_stop_pos=-250,0

[runway.241]
id=8732
name=Italy - Lecce
base_lat=N40 20.94
base_lon=E18 13.78
base_alt=112
heading=330
allegiance=0
units_across=2
takeoff_start_pos=100,0
takeoff_stop_pos=1600,200
landing_start_pos=5000,350
landing_touchdown_pos=550,0
landing_stop_pos=-250,0

[runway.242]
id=8733
name=Italy - Foggia Vincenzo
base_lat=N41 16.22
base_lon=E16 10.37
base_alt=184
heading=20
allegiance=0
units_across=2
takeoff_start_pos=100,0
takeoff_stop_pos=1600,200
landing_start_pos=5000,350
landing_touchdown_pos=550,0
landing_stop_pos=-250,0

[runway.243]
id=8734
name=Sardinia - Villacidro
base_lat=N39 25.49
base_lon=E08 46.32
base_alt=581
heading=160
allegiance=0
units_across=6
takeoff_start_pos=100,0
takeoff_stop_pos=1600,200
landing_start_pos=5000,350
landing_touchdown_pos=550,0
landing_stop_pos=-250,0

[runway.244]
id=8735
name=Sardinia - Olbia Landing Field
base_lat=N40 56.28
base_lon=E09 30.12
base_alt=2
heading=122
allegiance=0
units_across=6
takeoff_start_pos=100,0
takeoff_stop_pos=1600,200
landing_start_pos=5000,350
landing_touchdown_pos=550,0
landing_stop_pos=-250,0

[runway.245]
id=8736
name=Sardinia - Olbia SP
base_lat=N40 55.69
base_lon=E09 32.23
base_alt=0
heading=90
allegiance=0
units_across=6
takeoff_start_pos=100,0
takeoff_stop_pos=1600,200
landing_start_pos=5000,350
landing_touchdown_pos=550,0
landing_stop_pos=-250,0

[runway.246]
id=8737
name=Sardinia - Alghero Airfield
base_lat=N40 37.52
base_lon=E08 17.19
base_alt=56
heading=202
allegiance=0
units_across=2
takeoff_start_pos=-30000,0
takeoff_stop_pos=1600,200
landing_start_pos=5000,350
landing_touchdown_pos=550,0
landing_stop_pos=-250,0

Hey, sounds good Capt. Kurt!

The blurred prop set for the MZ/Daedalus FW190A/F series is ready. I wished I could have done better, but it's the best I can do with Akemi's prop texture file style. The textures fit also Akemi's Dora-9.

I still have to write the readme and I am planning to upload the pack tomorrow, did you already do gsl work on your Italian sceneries? If you would like me to do some help with them, all I need is your scenery files and some pictures of the way they looked in WWII, if any are available.

I use Google's sat pictures also, but today's airport layouts make it more of a guesswork, especially if those bases were temporary strips demolished after the end of WWII like 95% of the Foggia Airfield Complex. I cannot promise a quick release time with all the spring work (mowing, pruning an so on) my house dictates on me every year, plus my day job, but I shall work on them, honest!

My current project is updating all of the prop textures I did in the past with my latest mods and consolidate them in a single download pack, classified by nationality, aircraft designer and model. It will make life easier locating the proper texture for whatever aircraft, instead of searching long and wide through SOH library. It's a tad big, but it's progressing.

dvslats:

Rami nicely answered to you already, but, as a rule of thumb, whatever objects might sound unfamiliar to you, go look for it in Canion's ETO two libraries. I make a heavy use of those nice objects and that's Canion's windsock you were looking for.

Make sure you have the textures for MR's objects I attached above, bamboo-covered guard posts will look weird in the ETO/MTO!

Cheers!
KH

 

[dvslats]

dvslats:

Rami nicely answered to you already, but, as a rule of thumb, whatever objects might sound unfamiliar to you, go look for it in Canion's ETO two libraries. I make a heavy use of those nice objects and that's Canion's windsock you were looking for.

Make sure you have the textures for MR's objects I attached above, bamboo-covered guard posts will look weird in the ETO/MTO!

Cheers!
KH

Will do KH. Thanks for the assist.

I must say...your layouts are looking mighty fine.

Dv

 

[kdriver]

Here are the AAF airfield location/layout/aerial photo maps for Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Sicily, Sardinia, Southern Italy and Corsica.

If anyone wants the full size versions I'm happy to email them.

KD

 

[gius]

sounds like great work, i have worked on the same routes in the train sim you are discussing. what fun. glad you didnt mind my posting those pictures...i love the Italian routes and the amazing work that went into building them and what targets they must have been

here is a typical view of a 1940s Italian RR line with typical pre 1935 change to the brown livery...

another view of a marshaling yard:

this was how they got the trains over some of the high passes, with helper engines pushing from the rear..

and one more pictures of the amazing viaducts...imagine working to build them and one air strike could take them down in seconds...

Hi Chris, in your opinion can we recreate something similar in Cfs2 using FSrail by Burkhardt Renk??
Cheers,
Gius

 

[gius]

Into the scope, i've already realized a detailed model of a locomotive for FSRail...
Gius

 

[Captain Kurt]

Hey, sounds good Capt. Kurt!

The blurred prop set for the MZ/Daedalus FW190A/F series is ready. I wished I could have done better, but it's the best I can do with Akemi's prop texture file style. The textures fit also Akemi's Dora-9.

I still have to write the readme and I am planning to upload the pack tomorrow, did you already do gsl work on your Italian sceneries? If you would like me to do some help with them, all I need is your scenery files and some pictures of the way they looked in WWII, if any are available.

I use Google's sat pictures also, but today's airport layouts make it more of a guesswork, especially if those bases were temporary strips demolished after the end of WWII like 95% of the Foggia Airfield Complex. I cannot promise a quick release time with all the spring work (mowing, pruning an so on) my house dictates on me every year, plus my day job, but I shall work on them, honest!



Cheers!
KH

KH

I sent you a PM - I'd be happy to have you look at the layouts. Also some preview news about the Daedalus FW190s

 

[Captain Kurt]

Here are the AAF airfield location/layout/aerial photo maps for Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Sicily, Sardinia, Southern Italy and Corsica.

If anyone wants the full size versions I'm happy to email them.

KD

I'd love to have them. I sent you a PM

Thanks

 

[Blood_Hawk23]

Gius,
Moving FSrails into CFS2 would be awesome. It is a bit beyond my abillities. I get a headache just trying to get it setup.

I'd be willing to help. I just can't take the lead on this one.


Kdriver,
Those maps are great. I'd love a set as well.


Kelti,
Don't you know its not nice to tease. Make us wait all summer. Well maybe thats payback for how long you had to wait for mine stuff. Which reminds me, I have more to do.

Till Later,
John

 

[kelticheart]

I'd love to have them. I sent you a PM

Thanks

ME TOO, KEVIN, COUNT ME IN!

My secret wish is to be able to build gsl layouts looking as close as human/computer possible to what it mus have looked in WWII. Real pictures, or drawings, of any airfield would make life sooo much easier than spending hours at guessing how it must have been!

I think you have my e-mail addy already, if not:

kelticheart@libero.it

It's not a secret, I enclose my e-mail in every pack I upload!

Cheers!
KH

 

[kdriver]

MTO Airfield Location Maps

Hi Stef, John & Kurt,

The map set is 43 mb in size - a bit too large for emailing, so I've uploaded it to my OneDrive (formerly SkyDrive).

I'll send you the link.

Kevin