As the nature of things progress...

Bushi said:
Also.. in that colour plate of the Portuguese aircraft... did you notice the different float profile??? I'm not sure if they used more than one float design. I will have to source some actual photographs and make sure.. after all.. this IS an artists conception! :)

cheers
Dave
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Slab-sided floats were indeed used by the Portugese Air Force, Dave. However, inspite of the cost in extra polys, I opted to model those curvacious beauties operated by the RAF and RNAS. :)

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Motormouse said:
Float profile here... https://www.peoplescollection.wales/items/526932

hey Nigel, how about a low poly float version on the beaching gear as a scenery object...?

ttfn

Pete
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So far we have several scenery object models (see below) - lowish in polys, circa 2 MB a piece, Pete - I see no reason why we shouldn't add the float version too.

What about a trestled version for hangar maintenance?...

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nigel richards said:
Slab-sided floats were indeed used by the Portugese Air Force, Dave. However, inspite of the cost in extra polys, I opted to model those curvacious beauties operated by the RAF and RNAS. :)

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And lovely curvaceous beauties they are Nigel.. love 'em!
 
darrenvox said:
How are things with this...btw nice repaints
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Ticking along nicely, Nigel is working like a one armed paper hanger on the models... and if you notice a scenery of Old Sarum to go with them, several people are splashing paint about, and one or two of us are making sure it straightens up and flies right.

Ttfn

Pete
 
AVROes

Hallo Nigel and friends,

just did some flights with the new Avro aicrafts.
For the moment I am very occupied with the PBY panels.
What begun as just a little work developed to a lot more.
Now to the Avro.
There is some things I do not understand:
1. in the panel.cfg is mentioned a 2d panel with an dedicated bmp - but this one is just black
why to add the 2d panel as it does not realy serve
2. when flying with the VC (which is realy superb) my frame rate drops to have just a flying as in a diashow
3. still flying with the VC i noticed that with the landplanes it is not as "dramatic" as with the floatplane
4. the plane, both and land plane seem very "trim intensive" even when decreasing the power as indicated I
must trim down.
So much for first flights
Yours
Papi
 
Hey Papi --

Which version/model are you seeing a "black screen" where the 2D panel should be....? I have extensively tested each version and have not seen what you describe on any of them.

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AVRO _621-646sries_Beta18

Hallo Blackbird,

It is the Avroes from 05.05.2018
in the panel are a bmp callad DH80 or something like that but is black / transparent
and when displaying the plane in the sime on 2d panel mode there just the gauges without any background.
As I have a serious frame rate drop on the sim when flying with the VC I made 2d panel from VC screenshots.
Yours
Papi
 
Been a bit 'time poor' Nigel but I've managed a few test flights.
Just so you know at the moment P3D3 flights are fine (see below), P3D4 not so!
On my system FPS impact is nothing, internal or external views.

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Coming and going.
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This is all I could find regarding the Avro Tutor in South African Air Force service: (info from the SAAF Museum, Ysterplaat, Cape Town)
51 built, 50 written off charge, 1 to technical training. There was 39 at the beginning of 1939.
Serial batches: 701-751

It started off with a 215-240hp Armstrong Siddeley Lynx IV C engine, & when spares ran out, a number were fitted with uncowled Wright Whirlwind engines.
The Tutor was choses to succeed the Avro 504N in the RAF's training schools in 1932, & a total of 394 were built for the RAF.

As a result of a tour of South Africa by Alan Cobham's flying circus & trials by the SAAF, with one of his Tutors, G-AARZ, the Tutor was selected to replace the Avian IV M for SAAF training.

Following the delivery of two Avro built Tutors, a production batch of Tutors was built under license at the Aircraft and Artillery Depot at Voortrekkerhoogte (Roberts Heights) in Pretoria.

The total of 51 is thought to possibly exclude a few more built from spares at the end of the program, & which carried serial numbers of aircraft already written off.

They were used pre war by the Central Flying School (CFS), (established at Zwartkop Air Station in1932) & continued in service mainly with 62 Air School (62 AS) in WWII, with a few issued to other units.

Only one Tutor eventually survived in South Africa & this aircraft, 721, was preserved by the SA War Museum.
It was unfortunately scrapped in the mid 1950's, & the only Tutor is preserved at the Shuttleworth Collection at Old Warden in the UK.

I could not find any colour pictures, but the museum curator advised that they came in silver & yellow.
The only information I could find regarding roundels is from decals..


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michaelvader said:
Hallo Blackbird,

It is the Avroes from 05.05.2018
in the panel are a bmp callad DH80 or something like that but is black / transparent
and when displaying the plane in the sime on 2d panel mode there just the gauges without any background.
As I have a serious frame rate drop on the sim when flying with the VC I made 2d panel from VC screenshots.
Yours
Papi
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Papi --

Unless I missed out on a new BETA release, (which I'm sure I didn't) the latest release I have for a BETA is 04/19. Nigel sent some updated models which fixed the nav light on the tail, so that it works with the panel switch for the nav lights in the VC. I will fire up the trainer here and get back with you on that. I do see the "DH80" blank in the panel folder.... wonder what's up with that?

EDIT.... I was up with the 621 Trainer Yesterday and I don't remember a 2D panel, but it shouldn't be all black... you should see the scenery only in the 2D View. I briefly looked at the "621" after reading your post, and same thing... no 2D. There is a trick you can try to eliminate the all-black 2D view you're seeing but I don't guarantee it'll solve your problem. Go into the video/display section of the sim, in the settings, and make sure that "Render to Texture" is unchecked. It may or may not work but worth a try. You can always set it back if it doesn't.

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Avoes 621 - - - 2dpanel

Hi Blackbird

Oh I see there is a missunderstanding due a bad describing by me:
I meant that in the panel.cfg there is congigured the 2d panel using as
backgriund a bmp Dh80. when you look at it is black
Black but in fact transparent (colors 255, 255, 255)
Than on tthe sim when you are in 2d panel view you have the gauges just flying in the air and in the scenery.
I do not under stand the reason of doing so - why not in the case?
I did some back ground bmp's taken from screenshots from the nice VC.
I had a look on the frame rates
When flying with the VC my frame rate is oscilating between 4 and 11 fps flying with my 2d panel it is oscilating between 14
and 51 fps
That makes abit difference for flyong
Yours
Papi
 
Wasn't this question asked and answered a little while ago? If I recall, the answer was that the 2D panel isn't finished yet.
 
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Sorry Mick,
I did certainly oversee or miss this message that at the end a 2D panel will come
Sorry about all my bad remarks
Yours
Papi
 
michaelvader said:
Hi Blackbird

Oh I see there is a missunderstanding due a bad describing by me:
I meant that in the panel.cfg there is congigured the 2d panel using as
backgriund a bmp Dh80. when you look at it is black
Black but in fact transparent (colors 255, 255, 255)
Than on tthe sim when you are in 2d panel view you have the gauges just flying in the air and in the scenery.
I do not under stand the reason of doing so - why not in the case?
I did some back ground bmp's taken from screenshots from the nice VC.
I had a look on the frame rates
When flying with the VC my frame rate is oscilating between 4 and 11 fps flying with my 2d panel it is oscilating between 14
and 51 fps
That makes abit difference for flyong
Yours
Papi
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No worries... I don't see the gauges only in the 2D view, just the hangar in front of the airplane. But like Mick said... the 2D (if any) isn't finished yet. I missed that somehow.

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