AT-11 Beta This Week

claudius24 said:
Hi,

I suppose after the Kansan .... the next model will be the Beechcraft AT-10 "Wichita" ? :)
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Mr Milton Shupe:
To keep you out of the beer halls and bawdy houses ;-}, maybe a "series" of WWII Bomber Trainers like the AT-17, RB-18A, RB-34, and the "utility" version UC-78.. (Dad flew those before getting into the B-17's, B-24's and B-29's, as well)
I know, wishful thinking ;-}
 
HAAF

DHC120 said:
Mr Milton Shupe:
To keep you out of the beer halls and bawdy houses ;-}, maybe a "series" of WWII Bomber Trainers like the AT-17, RB-18A, RB-34, and the "utility" version UC-78.. (Dad flew those before getting into the B-17's, B-24's and B-29's, as well)
I know, wishful thinking ;-}
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Hello Charles :)

One really never knows what the next day brings. The AT-11 for me was I thought a simple extension to the D18S we did so it seemed maybe an easy and fast project. And, my home town houses one of the old WWII B-17 Bomber training bases, and the AT-11's were the primary trainers. And, the state of NM had just published a historical info mag about it, and ... LOL Anyhow, Taco Kichi agreed to do scenery for this base since we had base layout drawings and lots of pictures, plus story ... see here:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?t=24783

That is why we did the AT-11 with no particular interest in trainers in general. :wiggle:

Meanwhile, I had put the Dash 7 and the XP47J and XP-72 on hold for this project and the DH80A and the Grizzly before that. So I really want to get back to those aircraft in fairness to the good folks who have invested so much time there.

Thank you for your interest and for the recommendations ... as I said, "One really never knows what the next day brings." :wavey:
 
What ever it is that you bless this community with next almost doesn't matter. One thing is certain already...it will be great. THANK YOU again and again.

Cheers
Stefan



p.s. Could not help myself from adding the PV2 once again to the list of hopefuls :ernae:
 
Milton Shupe said:
Hello Charles :)

One really never knows what the next day brings. The AT-11 for me was I thought a simple extension to the D18S we did so it seemed maybe an easy and fast project. And, my home town houses one of the old WWII B-17 Bomber training bases, and the AT-11's were the primary trainers. And, the state of NM had just published a historical info mag about it, and ... LOL Anyhow, Taco Kichi agreed to do scenery for this base since we had base layout drawings and lots of pictures, plus story ... see here:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?t=24783

That is why we did the AT-11 with no particular interest in trainers in general. :wiggle:

Meanwhile, I had put the Dash 7 and the XP47J and XP-72 on hold for this project and the DH80A and the Grizzly before that. So I really want to get back to those aircraft in fairness to the good folks who have invested so much time there.

Thank you for your interest and for the recommendations ... as I said, "One really never knows what the next day brings." :wavey:
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Milton;
My Dad did his Bomber AT at (then) Big Spring Army Air Field, Texas (BSAAF, "code name" BZ-- later Webb AFB, now a municipal airport).. the sidebar to this story is (was) my Dad was born and raised in Big Spring!
I do not recall if any of his flight training took him over to Hobbs, I'd have to check his Form 5's "line-by-line", his log books just list the "From" base as "BZ" and the "To" base as "Local".. One can bet a 6-8 hour "local" flight isn't just circling the airfield ;-}
If folks "build" Bomber Trainers and (Texas) Training Bases, I, for one, would be greatly appreciative.. I envy the talent it takes to create these digital planes and air bases.. a skill/knowledge set I do not possess (I've tried reading SDK's, etc... Total "Greek"!)
I'm tickled to death that someone (you) are doing the AT-11 (version of the D-18 Beech).. flying the AT-11 version (when time comes) will mean more to me than flying the D-18 and "pretending" it's an AT-11.. I guess we all have our quirks..
 
Thank you Charles. Big Spring to Hobbs is easily less than 2 hours by plane so certainly could be possible he came this way.

Tako Kichi is making great progress on the scenery and we hope to have it out concurrent with the AT-11 release. Over 200 buildings, multiple towers on the flight line with B-17's and AT-11' s as both static and AI traffic, ammo dumps, assembly plant, and railhead with train has kept him quite busy. There are additional fields for T&G's and bombing practice.

Meanwhile, Gary Jones has completed the sounds for the AT-11 (awesome!), and the available skins have grown (separate release with the paint kit), and I just completed the AI aircraft and scenic model for Tako and am working to tone down the startup smoke right now, and working on the website.
 
Hobbs should go good with the Dyersburg AAF AI set that I did up for the d-ware B-17 pack. Dyersburg is now known as Arnold Field in Halls TN and mostly what I did was to rebuild the runways and parking based on a couple of old pics and add AI to it. Both were B-17 training bases and the AT-11 should just naturally fit right in there.

Milton, check your mail. :d

Willy
 
Has anyone setup the Shockwave Lights yet?

I couldn't get the landing lights setup to my satsifaction and was wondering if anyone had more success.

Thanks

--WH

UPDATE: Scratch that request. Got it figured out. Looks great, and I learned something new.

--WH
 
paul day said:
Can you tell us what you have learned about the shockwave light setup?

Regards Pul Day.
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I'll try, so bear with me.

First, this is the light setup I have for the AT-11. I've hightlighted the lines changed or added for the shockwave lights.

[LIGHTS]
// types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landing
// 6=Taxi, 7=Recognition, 8=Wing, 9=Logo, 10=Cabin
light.0 = 3, -0.6, -23.495, 1.796, fx_shockwave_navred, //fx_navred ,
light.1 = 3, -0.5, 23.495, 1.696, fx_shockwave_navgre, //fx_navgre ,
//light.2 = 3, -24.3, 0, 3.700, fx_navwhi
//light.3 = 4, 5.00, 0.00, 2.250, fx_vclight,
//light.4 = 10, 2.70, 0.00, 2.050, fx_vclight,
light.5 = 10, -2.20, 0.00, 3.250, fx_vclight,
//light.6 = 1, -17.68, 0.00, 3.999, fx_beacon_commander.fx ,
light.7 = 1, -0.1, 0.00, -1.700, Fx_shockwave_beacon_rotating_red , //fx_beacon_commander.fx ,
light.8 = 5, 8.3, -14.0, -2.9, Newll ,//wing lite reflections
light.9 = 5, 8.3, 14.0, -2.9, Newll ,//wing
light.10 = 5, 0.0, -10.5, -1.0, Fx_shockwave_landing_light_small, //left wing - added
light.11 = 5, 0.0, 10.5, -1.0, Fx_shockwave_landing_light_small, //right wing - added

I just got the Shockwave Lights late yesterday, so I'm still on my learning curve as to how to setup each of my aircraft. When I worked on the AT-11 yesterday, I could not get the landing lights to work as I assumed that lights 8 and 9 were for landing lights because they were both designated as a 5. :salute:

In studying the setup for the D18S, I learned that I had to add lights 10 and 11 to get the landing light effects I wanted. This was new to me since I had assumed that the Shockwave Lights only replaced existing lights. In this case they supplemented the landing lights that are actually part of the model.
In never dawned on me that you could do this. :jump: The trick, of course, is coming up with the right coordinates for placing the lights.

--WH
 
I changed the landing lights to the _old version, and like it much better.

See for yourself.

AT-1101.jpg


AT-1102.jpg


--WH
 
Milton Shupe said:
Thank you Charles. Big Spring to Hobbs is easily less than 2 hours by plane so certainly could be possible he came this way.

Tako Kichi is making great progress on the scenery and we hope to have it out concurrent with the AT-11 release. Over 200 buildings, multiple towers on the flight line with B-17's and AT-11' s as both static and AI traffic, ammo dumps, assembly plant, and railhead with train has kept him quite busy. There are additional fields for T&G's and bombing practice.

Meanwhile, Gary Jones has completed the sounds for the AT-11 (awesome!), and the available skins have grown (separate release with the paint kit), and I just completed the AI aircraft and scenic model for Tako and am working to tone down the startup smoke right now, and working on the website.
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So, what do you do with all your spare time? ;-}
Sounds like the AT-11/Hobbs set-up will be a neat package.. Looking forward to downloading the lot.
 
One thing I've learned about Milton is that he usually has several irons in the fire at one time. I'm sure that AT-11 will get finished in it's own good time.
 
Thanks for your interest Dave. Continuing to improve the package each day, and add more paint schemes for various countries and as an optional download.

Scott will not be able to get on the gauge updates until after this weekend so I am hoping we get this out as a Christmas gift for all.
 
Willy said:
One thing I've learned about Milton is that he usually has several irons in the fire at one time. I'm sure that AT-11 will get finished in it's own good time.
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Well of course :)

The four models we have now are getting some differentiation along with their specific paint schemes, and still fiddling with some of the improvements recommended in the early beta.

Also, did an AI version, and a static scenery version for Tako Kichi's Hobbs Army Air Base B-17 Bomber Training base that used AT-11's for all the initial pilot, bomber, and gunner training.

Also working on the F7F package a bit for another project. And, of course, I am usually involved with other designers in one way or another.
 
Speaking of Kansans: Here's a photo of a photo of some Dutch Kansans in the Former Dutch East-indies.

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