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Convair CV-580

It really annoys me when I come across a great model and the maps are setup in that way. If you want to put a unique marking, text, etc on a panel or wing and they are singularly mapped in that way it makes me irritated, because the item gets mirrored or is backwards, etc on the opposite side. Negating me wanting to do the livery at that point. Granted it may be been done for simplicity sake, but for people who like doing repaints it makes it so it's not accurate or cannot be done to the greatest accuracy due to those limiting factors. So as I said for these, The 5800, 580F, and the 580 will likely get the mod anyway the more I've thought about it. As I said, the tanker versions wont need it.
 
I agree. You would have thought that the Aces crew were so talented that they could have mapped them individually as they should be. With the benefit of the doubt and how they were treated at the end, it's probably "Microsoft" fault. Looking forward to the release. I found the "Mega CV-580 Package" at Flyaway Simulation and downloaded it and lo and behold, the IFL repaint was in there. It is also converted for P3D V4 and works in there though it looks like FS9/FSX still. Since you said that the repaint should work on your CV-580's I will probably use it as a basis for my CV-580 since two of them are still active I found on the internet. Elpaso to Chihuahua and Miami to Nassau round trips weekday mornings. Should be fun flights.
 
I did try my hand at making the IFL repaint early this morning to see how bad the map was stretched in that small aft section of the map where I lengthened the fuselage and it's not too bad, but I'm still debating whether or not to mess with it so that people can say, do what you did and drag other 580 repaints and it theoretically, would still work even on the 5800, maybe with a bit of tweaking. Still a ways off for that though.

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Looks good to me. I am waiting for yours because from what I saw of your tanker VC work it will be much better than the old CV-580 which was wonderful at the time of FS9 which it was made for. I have black areas in the VC that I can't find texture for though I have tried. I have updated exteriors in Adobe Photoshop of Milton Shupe's and Tim Conrad's aircraft for myself which again I can only do in repaints or Model Converter X. I have given up on Gmax, FSDS or by no means Blender. I have tried a few times and they are just way over MY head. LOL! The Mega package models have exit door animation but do not animate the cargo hatch so I am think that it is just "painted" on because it's not in the models.
 
Right now for the VC work, I'm actually swapping gauges that were 32-bit with ones from the Electra. The gents here updated a lot of stuff off the Electra that was given to me to help get that project up and going for those tankers and I felt it was an acceptable similar enough gauge to swap in and out for the originals. May not be period or airframe correct, but they do at least work. I've popped over to CalClassics a few times over the weeks since starting this project and have yet to get a response from anyone there either in terms of getting the actual airframe correct gauges converted. I think I mentioned it here, that someone there had mentioned they had 90% or so of those 32-bit gauge files transferred to xml ones. But the forums over there are nowhere near as active as here, so I figured the way I'm going at it for right now, will be the way they'll likely come out. As far as the doors go on these, they retain all of the original animations for the doors. So the large cargo door on the 580F and 5800 and the tanker models all swing up and so do the other doors on the opposite side (I think are the baggage doors). 4 doors total on the cargo versions and 3 on the Passenger ones.

I have the "6-pack" working and a few others updated now and some bonus ones included. At least the basics you can now reference including engine RPM, Exhaust temps, GPS was swapped for the non-functional wx radar readout, and a few other things I can't remember offhand currently.
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tgycgijoes said:
I thought this might help you with the gauge/VC that I found over the weekend free and as GI Issue there IS no copyright on it. Here is a mediafire link to the C-131A Manual because it says it's too large to attach here:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/eqnu7dlyg43u66r/Convair+C-131A+Samaritan+Flight+Manual.pdf/file
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Thank you for this additional resource, it will come in handy I'm sure!

Here's a better preview of where the 5800 sits currently. I keep coming back to it, since to me, it's the most unique of the 580 lineup. Outside of the tankers that is. Slightly biased there lol.

 
I played around and added PBR textures to the fuselage and the wings with MDCx and also created normal maps for the same files for the fuselage r and l and the wings and empennages following a Youtube tutorial that I downloaded actually last year. I think that it enhanced it some. Just playing around on Labor Day with it raining outside here.CV580 at KOAK With PBR.jpg
 
Scorch00 said:
Right now for the VC work, I'm actually swapping gauges that were 32-bit with ones from the Electra. The gents here updated a lot of stuff off the Electra that was given to me to help get that project up and going for those tankers and I felt it was an acceptable similar enough gauge to swap in and out for the originals. May not be period or airframe correct, but they do at least work. I've popped over to CalClassics a few times over the weeks since starting this project and have yet to get a response from anyone there either in terms of getting the actual airframe correct gauges converted. I think I mentioned it here, that someone there had mentioned they had 90% or so of those 32-bit gauge files transferred to xml ones. But the forums over there are nowhere near as active as here, so I figured the way I'm going at it for right now, will be the way they'll likely come out. As far as the doors go on these, they retain all of the original animations for the doors. So the large cargo door on the 580F and 5800 and the tanker models all swing up and so do the other doors on the opposite side (I think are the baggage doors). 4 doors total on the cargo versions and 3 on the Passenger ones.

I have the "6-pack" working and a few others updated now and some bonus ones included. At least the basics you can now reference including engine RPM, Exhaust temps, GPS was swapped for the non-functional wx radar readout, and a few other things I can't remember offhand currently.
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I like using the Garmin 530 which is xml from FS2X as a free download and works perfectly in V4.5 for me. I replace all the GNS295 and GNS500 defaults with it. Much better gauge IMO.
 
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Spent a few hours this afternoon on GSX2 in Prepar3D V4.5 experimenting to finally get the proper size container for the CV-580F which I discovered was the model I needed to get the cargo hatch to work. Then customized it with the 3D editor in GSX2 so the containers go all the way into the fuselage. BTW it uses the DPE or LD2 container based on the size of the rear cargo hatch which I found Googling for it. Dimensions are 118" wide by 72" high. This size container prevents oversize pallet loads. You can specify this in the GSX2 menu customize aircraft.

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A few small things I've updated on the tankers is adding the missing antennas on the spine. I've also cloned and added the rear chock per requests for more accuracy. I've also tweaked the base maps again slightly for the nacelles to get them a bit better looking. Other than that, they really don't look that different than iterations prior. But they are getting there. I've mentioned previously, that once the model changes/updates are done with all of them is when I'll go back in and start livery work. The tankers on their own will have all of Conair and Saskatchewan's fleet across both tanker models. The others I'm still determining which and how many I'll do.

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tgycgijoes said:
I am soooo into the CV-580/5800 here. I just found today Aaron R. Swindle's Soundworks for the CV-580 for free at Flightsim.com so it is NOT pirated but a Christmas gift in 2020 from Aaron. Thanks, Aaron. Here is the link for anyone who would like to download it.
https://www.flightsim.com/files/fil...-convair-cv-580-real-world-audio/?do=download
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Thanks for the sounds. I tried them out and they sound great! I am ready Freddy for the Convair 580 and its other versions.
 
I really enjoyed this short version of an airclips.com video –

Or the full version is here –

A really gorgeous example of a well preserved aircraft . . .
 
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