DC Designs PT-17 Stearman is Out

OK, just installed and took it for a quick ride around Orcas Island.
Enjoyed every minute of it and, even if still requiring full attention, I managed to land it on the first try (something I never got to do with the Waco).
Thanks Dean, MSFS was incomplete without a Stearman.
Now, for when the Concorde? :wink:

Glad you're enjoying it! :)

An update will be released Friday for the cosmetic issues mentioned here and elsewhere, I'm almost finished with the work.

Concorde work begins in late July, after the launch of my F-14A / B Tomcat package.
 
Glad you're enjoying it! :)

An update will be released Friday for the cosmetic issues mentioned here and elsewhere, I'm almost finished with the work.

Concorde work begins in late July, after the launch of my F-14A / B Tomcat package.

Did you just say "Tomcat"?? :jump:

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Meowwwww!!
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Several updates made to the model folks, in brief:

Windscreen frames thinned
Engine crank-case re-shaped
Wing support beams now aerofoil-shaped
Prop spin direction corrected
Elevator shape corrected
Exhaust interiors now matt black
Rain distortion bug on windscreen glass fixed

More will follow, but these will be available to users by Friday from Just Flight :)

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Yes thank you Dean, the model with those few corrections looks much better now. I bought it after our friendly exchanges on the other site yesterday after your apparent willingness to make the needed changes, or at least consider them.
I don’t know why my suggestions created all the resentment they did, but it doesn’t matter today.
All things considered, slings, arrows, asbestos blankets aside, we will have a more accurate PT-17 in MSFS to fly. I think we can all appreciate that.
 
If you look at it, this is the market for MSFS models, the models are much cheaper than was for P3D and this is nothing new and just an exception. From our (users) point of view it is very good, for develepers I think also - ok the price is lowest but the sales are higher (+ new users for the future). The average "XBOX user" won't pay $ 30 for DLC. :biggrin-new: On the other hand, these prices are often offered by completely new companies and people who are just starting to make models in MSFS (in a COVID situation where many people have lost their jobs or have financial problems, that's ok too). The competition here will simply be much bigger than it was, so from our, user's side its good too. Caudron 430 is an good example of this, 10Eu (and it was on sale at beginnig 8.5Eu) and the quality of 3D shape is impressive also:



As for the rest - it's nothing new. The group of flight simulator lovers is the most complaining group on the market :loyal: especially since it concerns the history of aviation and well-documented machines, which everyone has in their minds since childhood. You have to be prepared for this and simply take into account the opinions of the community, which after all has nothing wrong in mind, but only points to oversight. This is called constructive criticism if it is not exaggerated and if it's well documented. Have a good day!

Amen! That Caudron 430 is a quite impressve piece of work.
 
Brilliant, thanks :)
Typically I'm away friday and all weekend... is that a new livery BTW?

I've been investigating tail wheel locks ... the DC Stearman does have a lock, which defaults to unlocked allowing the plane to turn whilst taxying.
I'm pretty sure it should be engaged for take-off to help hold the plane straight, which can be achieved by mapping (eg) a joystick button.
I was hoping it would stop the leftward-lunge at 40 MPH and it does seem to, but then on further testing I don't always get the lunge even with it unlocked, so not yet proven.

The GAS Stearman has a lever on the right cockpit wall for the tailwheel lock (incidentally the GAS Stearman demo imports nicely into MSFS).
Some aircraft you hold the stick right back to engage the lock.
I guess it would be too much to ask for the lever to be added and the tailwheel animated...no problems I'm very happy with it as it is.

There is a very nice guide to flying the Stearman at https://captainbillywalker.com/stearman-stories/stearman-training-guide-2019/
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The Caudron is also very nice, but I think it is under-scale, especially in VR it feels like a model - I don't mean the short wings and cramped cockpit, it's all the dials and controls are tiny.
Anybody have an opinion on that?
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And on the subject of low MSFS prices ... is anybody expecting the PMDG DC-6 for $30... :santahat:
 
Brilliant, thanks :)
The GAS Stearman has a lever on the right cockpit wall for the tailwheel lock (incidentally the GAS Stearman demo imports nicely into MSFS).
Some aircraft you hold the stick right back to engage the lock.
I guess it would be too much to ask for the lever to be added and the tailwheel animated...no problems I'm very happy with it as it is.

I am hoping to add that, I was seeking info on where the control was in the cockpit. If it doesn't make it into Friday's update, it'll show up in the next one.
 
I am hoping to add that, I was seeking info on where the control was in the cockpit. If it doesn't make it into Friday's update, it'll show up in the next one.

Aside from the animated control, is it possible at all (via keyboard or joystick) to actually lock the tail wheel?
 
Aside from the animated control, is it possible at all (via keyboard or joystick) to actually lock the tail wheel?
Sure, I've mapped it to a throttle button, search for "tail" in the assignment menu (with All selected) and you should find TailWheel Lock or similar.
You then wont be able to turn without using differential brakes...
 
Did some more flying this morning. Dean, whoever did your audio earned their commission. The sound in the cockpit feels good, but what was really impressive was going to an outside view and panning around the plane. The sounds really do sound like a similar radial does at airshows as you fly around the camera. Really among the best I've heard for a plane in this class in a sim.

Overall the flight model feels really nice, and I appreciate the manageability on takeoff. I saw Dean reply to a real Stearman pilot's comments about the drag needing to be increased on a YouTube review. (Not sure if you saw my earlier comment, Dean, as it fell in the middle of yesterday's fun discussion. :)) So with a bit of increase in the drag to make the landing sequence more authentic-feeling, and a reduction in roll rate, it should be pretty spot-on as far as handling and performance.
 
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Btw. What is good, the model looks very nice in VR. The scale of cockpit is very ok here. Really, the impression is very nice.
Maybe the initial pilot view is too low but I use custom saved presets for views so everyone can set themselves the way they like. :wiggle:



Dean, Id like to add one wish - the stick in neutral position isnt on the center (to much too left). Red button on the top of stick should be on the 6 on this clock above.
If you can add it to your list it would be fine :), just a wish:



Btw. Dont rush ;) Update can be when it will be ready, no problem.
 
Stearman v1.0.1 is live at Just Flight, notification e-mails should go out later today. Updates are as per previously mentioned here, mostly cosmetic and also correcting modeling errors and community observations.

Aerodynamics remain the same just for now. Watching John Mohr aerobatics in a stock PT-17 shows that the Stearman can indeed snap-roll very quickly for such an old aircraft, when in the right hands. Drag however is something I'd like to fix - we're looking at the best way of doing that without compromising the aircraft's nice aerobatic capabilities. This is a Stearman for everybody, so for instance while the real aircraft is actually quite demanding to loop, I want it to be a little easier in MSFS. For the same reason, it's not easy to ground-loop it as the brake scalar is low, to help newcomers who might otherwise become frustrated and not fly the airplane.
 
I loved the model , it 's perfect , congratulations for all the work , if one day I can put the engine cover on I would love it , because if there is a Stearman I like it 's The Flying Bulls





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