Douglas C-47 v3 Livery Thread

[speedy70]

Hi Alky are you going to upload it?

I would really like it.

Cheers Chris

 

[Alky]

Hi Alky are you going to upload it?

I would really like it.

Cheers Chris

I've never uploaded anything here so I'll give 'er a whirl. I don't know how long it takes to get listed so stand by.

 

[speedy70]

I think if you upload it now it should be available tomorrow.

Thanks again.

Cheers Chris

 

[Alky]

I think if you upload it now it should be available tomorrow.

Just uploaded, hope i did it right!

 

[fuzz1]

Looks great Alky, can't wait to get it...many thanks for your effort. Looks like fresh paint, perfect for those northern VIP flights.

I'd still encourage Hani to do his in v3 also; it presented a more weathered and well used appearance for those dirty cargo
runs into tight unpaved strips.

That way we have a choice of clean or beat up.

 

[fuzz1]

Another favorite of mine I believe is worthy of the v3 treatment:

By Gary Harper

 

[Craig Taylor]

Many, many years ago my father used to fly in and out of the Libyan desert on one of these. It would be wonderful if someone would take a shot at painting it. I wish I had personal photos, but this was a long, long time ago...

 

[Butcherbird17]

One that I am playing with, Should be a DC-3 and not the C-47. This one was formally a KLM bird (PH-ALV), captured by the luftwaffe at Schipol and operated by Deutsche lufthansa circa 1941.



Joe

 

[gaab]

Another favorite of mine I believe is worthy of the v3 treatment:

By Gary Harper

Yes, please
Gérard

 

[paulopp]

Rjaf c-47a '111'

Greetings,

to all of you good repainters, I'd like to make a suggestion: C-47A (cn 19460) '111' from the Royal Jordanian Air Force which is exhibited at Hermeskeil, Germany. She is the closest Dakota to where I live and I think she quite perfectly qualifies for a repaint. See for yourselves:

Photos © Ruud Leeuw http://www.ruudleeuw.com/hermeskeil05.htm

What do you think?

Best, paulopp

 

[b52bob]

I did make some Repaints in RTAF of this wonderful Bird. Big Thanks to Manfred Jahn/Jan Viser and Team its so nice to fly this Old Lady

If i one day find out how to upload this files here i will share it with the comunity. What you think about it?

What scenery is this. It's beautiful and I have been trying to find good Thai scenery, especially u-tapao.

 

[Javis]

Gents, excuse me for butting in. I really have no clue where the idea came from that there's supposed to be a complete ring of heavy oil and soot stains behind the cowl flaps (as can be seen in some of the repaint screenies..). On photos of real DC-3's/C-47's there is usually no evidence of such heavy 'weathering' there behind the cowl flaps. I saw one (in another thread) that even looks like both engines have been on fire for a couple of hours... ;-)

Of course still flying Dakotas today that belong to musea and such are kept in immaculate condition and appearance, including the engine nacelles, but there are still quite a few photos around of Dakotas during their working life in the 1950's, 60's etc. that show hardly any evidence of heavy oil/soot there behind the cowl flaps let alone burned out engines...

A nice example from my own collection. Typical BEA cargo workhorse. Fairly, what you might call 'weathered' as you can see, but a pretty clean area behind the cowl flaps. (the dark area at the front is the shadow of the cowlflaps and because the structure bends inwards there. With closed cowl flaps nothing dark to see there ):

(btw, anyone interested in doing a repaint of this beautiful BEA livery ? I have some color photos too.. ;-)

Another one of KLM PH-DAM in the late 50's :

Couple more from airliners.net :

RAN C-47 in 1988
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/8/4/3/2828348.jpg?v=v20

TAA C-47 1968
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/7/6/6/2821667.jpg?v=v20

Shawnee C-47 late 1970's
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/8/8/7/2820788.jpg?v=v20

Emerald C-53D 1967
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/7/9/8/2817897.jpg?v=v20

Philippine Airlines C-47 1980
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/1/0/0/2794001.jpg?v=v20

Certainly there are a few others that do show evidence of something hot and oily going on inside that front cowling there but notice how these oil or soot stains appear more like 'lines' coming from individual cylinders that might need replacement...

N6CA mid 70's
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/9/4/3/2822349.jpg?v=v20

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/6/3/1/2826136.jpg?v=v20

N49FN mid 70's
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/0/9/2/2821290.jpg?v=v20

N27ISE Florida Air Cargo 2015
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/0/8/3/2747380.jpg?v=v20

Anyway, just something i couldn't help noticing. No criticising whatsoever. On ze contrary, very much looking forward to all these wonderful repaints.

Thanks for listening, gentlemen.

cheers,
jan

 

[Alky]

Gents, excuse me for butting in. I really have no clue where the idea came from that there's supposed to be a complete ring of heavy oil and soot stains behind the cowl flaps (as can be seen in some of the repaint screenies..).

Maybe it should be removed from the paintkit(?)

N27ISE Florida Air Cargo 2015
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/0/8/3/2747380.jpg?v=v20

Anyway, just something i couldn't help noticing. No criticising whatsoever. On ze contrary, very much looking forward to all these wonderful repaints.

I love the livery on that Florida Air Cargo plane!!

 

[Bruce Thompson]

DC3 BKS Air Transport

Yet another site with some history of DC/C47 aircraft back in the day when Leeds Bradford Airport was known as Yeadon Airport.
I can remember it as a flying club.

http://website.lineone.net/~biggles200/index.htm

 

[heywooood]

Has this livery been done? If not I would like to do it.

Bush Air Cargo

Please DO!!

 

[heywooood]

Has this livery been done? If not I would like to do it.

Bush Air Cargo

Please DO!!....oh - I see that you ARE doing it...GREAT!

 

[Duckie]

Gents, excuse me for butting in. I really have no clue where the idea came from that there's supposed to be a complete ring of heavy oil and soot stains behind the cowl flaps (as can be seen in some of the repaint screenies..). On photos of real DC-3's/C-47's there is usually no evidence of such heavy 'weathering' there behind the cowl flaps. I saw one (in another thread) that even looks like both engines have been on fire for a couple of hours... ;-)

Of course still flying Dakotas today that belong to musea and such are kept in immaculate condition and appearance, including the engine nacelles, but there are still quite a few photos around of Dakotas during their working life in the 1950's, 60's etc. that show hardly any evidence of heavy oil/soot there behind the cowl flaps let alone burned out engines...

A nice example from my own collection. Typical BEA cargo workhorse. Fairly, what you might call 'weathered' as you can see, but a pretty clean area behind the cowl flaps. (the dark area at the front is the shadow of the cowlflaps and because the structure bends inwards there. With closed cowl flaps nothing dark to see there ):



Certainly there are a few others that do show evidence of something hot and oily going on inside that front cowling there but notice how these oil or soot stains appear more like 'lines' coming from individual cylinders that might need replacement...

Thanks for listening, gentlemen.

cheers,
jan

I usually stay clear of discussions regarding correct colors, and weathering because they can be so subjective and can get out of hand very quickly. So, at the risk of stirring the pot, and with all due respect and admiration for one of our hobby's most prolific developers, I will comment on this particular subject.

First off, I agree with Jan re the current C-47/DC-3 fliers. For the most part they are kept in pristine condition, including the engine cowls and nacelles. However there are many examples of operational military C-47s, and even a few civilian airliners with varying degrees of oil and soot on the nacelles behind the cowl flaps, a few of which are posted below.

So, from this repainter's point of view, I respectfully disagree with Jan's statement in his first paragraph. While I also agree with Jan re that degree of such "weathering" may come into question. But, that is usually determined by many factors such as personal taste, skill level and experience with repainting. As for myself, I repaint subjects for me. Most times I try to make them as accurate as possible. However, there are times when I take artistic license with such things, and because it's for me, it's OK if others don't care for them.

Finally, this is not a debate or argument. It is my humble opinion only, and I will not engage in any back and forth because I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just sharing an opinion.



Steve

 

[huub vink]

The last livery for the KLM C-47

As I already said in a previous post, I'm currently replacing the engines and adjusting the textures of my earlier repaints to fit the V.3 version.

There was also one KLM livery missing: The last one! This is the PH-DAW as it looked in December 1968 at Schiphol, Amsterdam. It was the last C-47 to fly in KLM colours. Although the last DC-3/C-47 officially left the KLM passenger fleet already in 1965, 2 C-47s kept flying for KLM Aerocarto. The PH-DAW was the last to be sold in 1970.

It took this long to start this repaint, as I personally consider this the most boring livery on a KLM C-47s. (Still work in progress)



I hope this one will make Jan Visser happy .

Cheers,
Huub

 

[Wings of Gold]

BEA V3 Texture

I second Jan's suggestion for a BEA texture for this bird! The BEA Paint scheme is one of the truly beautiful Dakota paint schemes, and(amazingly) it hasn't yet been done. PLEASE, one of you talented painters, do a BES version!


Best to you all,

Bill

 

[musterpilot]

Hi guys
Would anyone be interested in doing me a repaint for the MMA VH-MMB please

thank you

John