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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

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Grumman Duck (Swingman Redux) Native

norab said:
The improved FDE can both be found on this page

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=8
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What about for the J2F5? I only see improvements for the other 2 models, also is it safe to use the aircraft.cfg's included? You have to change the model= entry though.

fxsttcb said:
To Alias a sound to another plane:
Sound.cfg:
[fltsim]
alias=Plane Folder Name\Sound Folder Name

Mine is "alias=North American T-28D/Sound.PW-R2800x1"

That sound set is "FS2004/FSX Single P&W R2800 Sounds"{single_p_w_r2800_sounds.zip} at flightsim...Don
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So this is the best sound out there for this duck?
 
Grumman Duck Sounds

I posted this originally, when the aircraft was originally released early last year. (It's also a good match for F3F's and F4F's)

-First, go to Flightsim.com, and download T28snz.zip: http://flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=78766
-Then go here and download the updated sound files for this soundset, by Javis: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...fo&FileID=2911

Install these as outlined.

- Now an additional bit I have done, to make it even more accurate, is add Wildcat gear sounds, which feature the ratcheting/bicycle chain sound of the gear retract/extension on those early Grumman landing gear designs, which you can download here and simply copy and paste into the sound folder you have from the previous steps, overwriting the files by the same name...
 
revised duck

fxsttcb said:
My "FSX Grumman J2F Duck 2D Panel" was for the FS9 ported version, but, using it in FSX does work.
I'm in the process of making a revised version for the FSX native plane...Don

View attachment 66148
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Don,

That would be awesome. After all the seperate "post" mini fixes here and there, a complete re do from stem to stern would be most appreciated.
:kilroy:
 
View attachment 66273Terrific work everyone. What a gem. I'll have to try the sounds and various updates. And the Duck and T-28 do sound fairly similar- ejector stacks vs collector ring, but real close.
Started messing about with the paint for some late war J2Fs. Just a rework based on the J2F5 paint, with some detail added to the tail feathers to get a feel for the quackerView attachment 66271View attachment 66272
 
Many thanks Chris et al for this. The only thing I have never liked about this masterpiece is that the prop is handled in the Model file, there is no texture to modify it. It doesn't detract from the beauty of the actual model itself, it is just a nit-pick.

Caz

View attachment 66277
 
Post-War Ducks ...

Separate from the USAF OA-12s, I seem to recall a few rare photos of either USN or USMC Ducks wearing stars AND bars (post '47 markings).

I can't recall if the paint was dark sea blue, or white - I just recall it NOT being the USAF rescue scheme, and the longer cowling.

Does anyone know if they were used by either USN or USMC late enough to use the post-47 markings?

thanks!

DL
 
According to the FY reports at the USN Historical Society website the J2F was on hand until 1950. Here's the postwar breakdown:

1948 15 total for Fleet Utility.
1949 8 reserve, 17 active 25 total
1950 2 reserve, 10 active 12 total
1951 gone.
 
johndetrick said:
According to the FY reports at the USN Historical Society website the J2F was on hand until 1950. Here's the postwar breakdown:

1948 15 total for Fleet Utility.
1949 8 reserve, 17 active 25 total
1950 2 reserve, 10 active 12 total
1951 gone.
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HAHA!! Why did I supect that either you or Helldiver would know the answer to this ... brilliant! I had an inkling .... just no proof - thanks so much.

What did the the Fleet Utility schemes look like? I'm assuming dark sea blue? I'll bet they looked really smart!

DL
 
I've seen a few shots here and there of post '47 J2F's in overall dark sea blue with the reserves orange-yellow band,as well as U birds attached to seaplane tenders, usually hacks and base flight SAR aircraft, so yup. The photographic record is spotty though, and I expect the late war ducks got field applied repaints as they cycled through maintenance. No claims made for accuracy, I simply wanted some duck repaints for the Solomons and Iwo that did not look grossly out of place.
 
And a wee tweak of the contact points. I found the arse of the float was staying submerged. This gets her butt out of the water(crosses fingers) and changes scrape points to float points( I was getting flying sparks off the water in some places!) Copy and paste.



//0 Class <0=none,1=wheel, 2=scrape, 3=float>
//1 Longitudinal Position (feet)
//2 Lateral Position (feet)
//3 Vertical Position (feet)
//4 Impact Damage Threshold (Feet Per Minute)
//5 Brake Map (0=None, 1=Left, 2=Right)
//6 Wheel Radius (feet)
//7 Steer Angle (degrees)
//8 Static Compression (feet) (0 if rigid)
//9 Max/Static Compression Ratio
//10 Damping Ratio (0=Undamped, 1=Critically Damped)
//11 Extension Time (seconds)
//12 Retraction Time (seconds)
//13 Sound Type
//14 Airspeed limit for retraction (KIAS)
//15 Airspeed that gear gets damage at (KIAS)


point.0 = 1.000, -15.000, 0.000, -4.900, 1600.000, 0.000, 0.500, 90.000, 0.100, 2.500, 0.900, 5.000, 4.000, 0.000, 195.000, 250.000
point.1 = 1.000, 1.700, -4.000, -8.600, 1600.000, 1.000, 1.500, 0.000, 0.200, 2.500, 0.850, 6.000, 5.000, 2.000, 195.000, 250.000
point.2 = 1.000, 1.700, 4.000, -8.600, 1600.000, 2.000, 1.500, 0.000, 0.300, 2.500, 0.850, 6.000, 5.000, 3.000, 195.000, 250.000
point.3 = 3.000, 12.000, -2.500, -7.600, 2500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.500, 2.500, 0.850, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.4 = 3.000, 12.000, 2.500, -7.600, 2500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.500, 2.500, 0.850, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.5 = 3.000, -14.000, -1.200, -4.200, 2500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.600, 2.500, 0.850, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.6 = 3.000, -14.000, 1.200, -4.200, 2500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.600, 2.500, 0.850, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.7 = 3.000, -3.100, -15.800, -4.800, 1500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.500, 2.500, 0.700, 0.000, 0.000, 5.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.8 = 3.000, -3.100, 15.800, -4.800, 1500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.500, 2.500, 0.700, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.9 = 4.000, 9.000, 0.000, -7.800, 2500.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.500, 2.500, 0.700, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
 
The USAF also operated a few obtained from the Navy as OA-12's beginning in 1948 as search & rescue
 
delta_lima said:
Separate from the USAF OA-12s, I seem to recall a few rare photos of either USN or USMC Ducks wearing stars AND bars (post '47 markings).

I can't recall if the paint was dark sea blue, or white - I just recall it NOT being the USAF rescue scheme, and the longer cowling.

Does anyone know if they were used by either USN or USMC late enough to use the post-47 markings?

thanks!

DL
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Hope this helps:kilroy:
 
Thats the one Smashing! Its about the only photo I've seen of a post '47 USN duck. The OA-12's are well documented, as are the ARA and Peruvian machines. I'll add a few of 1944-46 ducks. The Antarctic machines are interesting too. Looks like lots of red spashed over USCG silver, but there were some sea blue with yellow versions as wellView attachment 66655View attachment 66656View attachment 66657View attachment 66658View attachment 66659View attachment 66660View attachment 66661View attachment 66662
 
Some more late war.:kilroy:

The resources I have indicate that the JRF Ducks as well as most seaplanes of the Navy & Marines retained the Tri Color (Semi Gloss Sea Blue FS25042, Intermediate Blue fs35164, Insignia White FS37875) or overall silver with black anti glare panel from mid 43 throughout the rest of the war. Various applications had different levels of the Sea Blue applied. Only fighter aircraft , some patrol bombers, and carrier aircraft converted to the overall Glossy Sea Blue (FS15042) in mid 44 .
The Atlantic Fleet Aircraft used two schemes for all aircraft, Top NS Dark Gull Gray( FS36231), NS Light Gray (FS36440) G Insignia White (FS37875) or Top NS Dark Gray and Sides NS Insignia White, bottom G Insignia white.
 
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