Introducing the Avia 51

OleBoy said:
Milton, I notice that the door handle, hinges, exhaust pipes, and tail wheel "forks" are black on the 156. Can you point me to those areas so I can fix it please?
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OB, the exhaust pipes and tail wheel forks are dark gray/black in all the pictures I have so they use a black-ish/dark gray texture.

The door handles and door hinges used a chrome texture, the only parts that did, so I have eliminated that texture and reassigned them to a chrome metal texture on another bmp.

I will send you an updated model file shortly.

EDIT: Check your email
 
Received, and in use. Thank you.

I'm in the midst of a bees nest. I'm attempting (no promises!) to adapt my 156 textures, to the 51 templates. Then do the needed adjusting. This may take quite a while. :isadizzy:

Also, while looking at the Avia 51 resource material, I noticed that there (in one of the photos) is the registration, OK-ABW. I wish there were more pictures of the 51 ship.
 
OleBoy said:
...while looking at the Avia 51 resource material, I noticed that there (in one of the photos) is the registration, OK-ABW. I wish there were more pictures of the 51 ship.
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I would also like to see photos of the other Avia 51s. We do have their registrations though, OK-ABV, OK-ABZ, and OK-ABW. All three were initially owned by the Czech airline, Československá letecká společnost (ČLS). As I understand it, CLS was a subsidiary of the Skoda works as was Avia.
 
OB,

That could be a Herculean effort there! I appreciate your confidence and enthusiasm. :)

I have two pictures showing the ABW and just now noticed a major difference between it and the ABV.

As I only have two right side pictures, it wasn't obvious until I had finished modeling and mapping, and the 3-view was of the left side.

You will notice it once you get there.

Have fun :)
 
Hurricane91 said:
I would also like to see photos of the other Avia 51s. We do have their registrations though, OK-ABV, OK-ABV, and OK-ABW. All three were initially owned by the Czech airline, Československá letecká společnost (ČLS). As I understand it, CLS was a subsidiary of the Skoda works as was Avia.
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Would you edit and correct your post sir? :) Hint: "Z"

See here: http://www.goldenyears.ukf.net/reg_OK-.htm
 
Hurricane91 said:
I would also like to see photos of the other Avia 51s. We do have their registrations though, OK-ABV, OK-ABV, and OK-ABW. All three were initially owned by the Czech airline, Československá letecká společnost (ČLS). As I understand it, CLS was a subsidiary of the Skoda works as was Avia.
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Hi,

I may be completely mistaken, but a while ago, I got the impression that Czechoslovakia had 2 airlines back then, ČSA serving mainly domestic routes and ČLS international ones. Timetables of that period show domestic routes that are not served by ČLS.

Best regards,
Volker
 
Cadmium Coating Question

When an aircraft is coated with Cadmium, what is the visual impact to color and sheen? Is it a semi-translucent coating or what?

EDIT: I re-read the article and it may explain the apparent appearance differences across the fuselage:

"In the construction of the Avia 51 nothing but metal and fabric has been used (with the exception of certain cabin decorations).Duralumin and high tensile steel are the materials employed. Painting, lacquering and cadmium plating are the precautions taken against corrosion."
 
Volker Böhme said:
Hi,

I may be completely mistaken, but a while ago, I got the impression that Czechoslovakia had 2 airlines back then, ČSA serving mainly domestic routes and ČLS international ones. Timetables of that period show domestic routes that are not served by ČLS.

Best regards,
Volker
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Volker, thanks for that observation. If you have links to route and airline information of the early to mid-30's by these airlines, it may be helpful to Nigel who is setting up some AI Traffic routes for this project with related era and location-correct vintage aircraft.

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cadmium is a metal -so when mentioned as "cadmium plating," it probably refers to the material used as the skin. More likely, cadmium being more expensive and difficult to come by, cadmium would be used as a component of an alloy or only in selected places. For the purposes of painting, the cadmium shouldn't make a difference in the textures.
 
Volker Böhme said:
Hi,

I may be completely mistaken, but a while ago, I got the impression that Czechoslovakia had 2 airlines back then, ČSA serving mainly domestic routes and ČLS international ones. Timetables of that period show domestic routes that are not served by ČLS.

Best regards,
Volker
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You are most likley correct Volker. I have been researching the markings that were applied in order to assist the texture painters. Most of the photos that I have seen had a stylized "Československá Letecká Společnost" and a ČLS logo applied to both sides. I am still searching for a good photo or graphic of the ČLS logo.

The Avia 156 does not appear to have worn an airline livery in the few photos I have seen.
 
Hurricane91 said:
You are most likley correct Volker. I have been researching the markings that were applied in order to assist the texture painters. Most of the photos that I have seen had a stylized "Československá Letecká Společnost" and a ČLS logo applied to both sides. I am still searching for a good photo or graphic of the ČLS logo.

The Avia 156 does not appear to have worn an airline livery in the few photos I have seen.
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That is correct. The prototype never left that status as it crashed in testing with the accompanying aircraft.

I am looking for where I saw that information but have not "re-discovered" it yet. :-/

Here is the Wiki snippet on the 156.

Development
The Avia 156 was a single-engined high-wing cantilever monoplane that first flew in 1934.[1] Powered by a Hispano-Suiza 12Ydrs inline piston engine and had fixed tail wheel landing gear.[1] The Avia 156 performed well in test flights but only a prototype was built.[1]
[edit] Specifications
Data from [1]
General characteristics
· Crew: 2
· Capacity: 6
· Length: 10.55 m (34 ft 7 in)
· Wingspan: 15.10 m (49 ft 6 in)
· Wing area: 38 m[SUP]2[/SUP] (410 sq ft)
· Empty weight: 2,305 kg (5,082 lb)
· Max takeoff weight: 3,790 kg (8,356 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × Hispano-Suiza 12Ydrs inline piston engine, 630 kW (850 hp)
Performance
· Maximum speed: 350 km/h (220 mph; 190 kn)
· Cruising speed: 330 km/h (210 mph; 180 kn)
· Range: 950 km (590 mi; 513 nmi)
· Service ceiling: 6,200 m (20,341 ft)
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Hurricane91 said:
You are most likley correct Volker. I have been researching the markings that were applied in order to assist the texture painters. Most of the photos that I have seen had a stylized "Československá Letecká Společnost" and a ČLS logo applied to both sides. I am still searching for a good photo or graphic of the ČLS logo.

The Avia 156 does not appear to have worn an airline livery in the few photos I have seen.
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Best I have found is still this page:
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/cls.htm

with a bit here:
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/clsl.htm

and a tiny bit more here:
http://www.airtimes.com/cgat/cz/czechoslovakairtransport.htm
 
I'm working away at the new textures. I just popped it in FSX to have a peek, and OOPS!!! I better recheck alphas :icon_lol:

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Stay tuned. I think you'll like the progress.
 
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