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Updated FDEs for He-219A7 'UHU' Turbo Prop Engines

Finally finished the FDEs for 'UHU'. But these are the turbo-prop (jet) engined version. Just for demo/fun as they are intense. Hold on to your Bippy with this one. The piston version is WIP and should be another 4 days (?-hehe).

(Am trying this method for 'upload' as the upload needs to be at host site? Will look into it. No matter. The important thing is that you get the files. Right? Right. Hope you enjoy them.
Chuck B
Napamule
 
since your on the BV 138

I tried downloading RV HIEN (PAKAKAN) BV 138 and there's no sound and the panel doesn't show. Whats up with that? The files are all there, any ideas?
 
Hurricane,
The cfg is circa 2007 and is missing 'ui_' lines (as it is done for CFS). Simply open the aircraft cfg and insert these lines. Change the variation to whatever you like. The quote marks allow use of 'special characters' in name. Here it is:

ui_manufacturer=Blohm & Voss
ui_type="BV-138G" //or, "BV-138MS"
ui_variation="default" //or, "Mine Sweeper"

And the reason your panel or sound don't 'show' is that he has double folders in path (ie: 'BV-138\Aircraft\BV-138'). So look for panel and sound under 'BV-138' under '..\Flight Simulator 9' folder. Move them over to the main BV-138 folder and now they should 'show'.

Chuck B
Napamule
PS: Been working on FDEs for it and should be uploading zip (as attachment) probably tomorrow (it's too late already). But it the model by Ito. Will work on model by Richard Alexander van Hien later this week. Am swamped with 'Summer' chores.
 
Does anyone know where I can find the model from Richard Alexander van Hien?

Thanks,

T.
 
SgtT said:
Does anyone know where I can find the model from Richard Alexander van Hien?

Thanks,

T.
Click to expand...

He has a lot of stuff over at Flightsim (also some here in the archive, he goes by the name Payakan at the Outhouse). Although nominally his models are for FS2002 many of them work perfectly well in FS2004, with little or no tweaking.
 
couldn't find any double folders

When I installed the plane , I counldn't find any double folders , there was only the single BV 138 folder and couldn't find any thing under panel or sound that was double.
 
Problem Solved

Hurricane,
I went and tweaked a cfg and added my air file to a zip. Click to download. Start over and put orig air, plus my cfg and air in there and fire it up. Should be much better.

The problem is that these files were from back when (2007) and for FS2000, with the air file writing the sections for a aircraft.cfg. It can still be done, but it's really 'crude' business. Nothing like a hand made cfg.

The way the panel= and sound= is written in the (FlightSim.0) section you will NEVER get a panel or sound, due to use of 'path'. This is 'ok' if everyone's install is the same (ie: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9 ). If you installed in D: drive, for example, that 'path' will not 'compute', so no panel or sound. Or if you installed to C: but directly under root (ie: C:\Flight Simulator 9) then you will have the same thing.

My air file has entries to co-incide with fact that I gave it WHEELS so you can go on land. It's optional as you have to press 'G' to extend/retract. You have a choice. But one needs some entries in air file for them to work. One is spoiler. The other is auto pilot (I gave you both in MY air). But his worked good. So you can use his and not use mine. Or both (hehe). Here is the zip. Click on zip icon to download.
Chuck B
Napamule
 
well done

Good job napamule , I put in your air and new config file and the planes panel shows up fine.Even has a bit of a vc panel right and left and you can pan around the cockpit. I didn't like the sound only being there from inside and it would go away when you flew so I alised it to the Ford Trimotor and now I got a three engine sound on the land water or in the air, inside and out. May not sound like a diesel but I don't care.
I also didn't download the minesweeper but the files work fine with the patrol version as well.It shows up as a minesweeper but I really could care less.
My path to FS9 is the default , c/drive/program files/microsoft games so no problem there.Hope this is the right post ,there being one now just for the RV HIEN vesion if not someone can move it. Thanks for your hard work.
 
Hurricane,
Yes there is a seperate thread for the RV Hein and there is one for the RV Ito version. They are different models. In fact: you should get the Hein MS model as it is different from the G model. Just to make it interesting for yourself. It is essential that one stick to the 'rules' and not mix apples and oranges. Get my drift? One little slip and your sim is 'poof'. Not worth it. I'm a stickler for details, but I also understand that not everyone is familiar with paths, edits to cfgs, or the other hacks/tweaks, etc. So that is why I chime in. I'm here to help if I can. I also am a realist. I did NOT expect the panel to work in FS9. I did not install it. Saves heart/head aches. I got me another panel, that I know is working. Same for the sound. One look at sound.cfg and 'pfift'-in the 'can' the whole thing went. I used 'a6m3' sound (from FS2000?). I find and keep sound seperate and rummage thru it by dbl clicking wav file itself (will be played by MS Media Player) so as to hear it's 'roar'.

But it's no fun that after you unraveled the path, etc and load the plane that it don't work worth a darn. And that is why I do FDEs. I love to see the models to not just look good, but to work good (albiet not always 'perfect'). I don't count rivets, either. I fly and try to bust them off (hehe). Cheers.
Chuck B
Napamule
 
guess I took a chance

I guess I took a chance and didn't realise it and I lucked out, I don't like the MS version with that mine sweeper thing sticking out so I went for the recon version and it worked. As long as everything works ok I'am just going to stick with the recon version. Next time I'll pay more attension to what mods I make.
 
Hurricane,
Yeah, I guess that 'do-hickie' thingee don't grab you. Me? It don't matter. What matters is that it sits right on water. Maybe some splash. Some sounds. A little performance. Smooth handling, bla, bla, bla. Lots of work, but worth it to me.

One can't tell much about models diff. I go by the size of file and it's date created to differentiate the models. I guess they are the same except for maybe what you see when you look out the VC windows (as you found out). So the 'flying' part of model must be the same. It would be a guess, anway. No 'proof'. But I DO know that Ito's model is very different to Hein's model. But they have simularities as far as dyanmics.

Glad the FDEs worked for you. I got this 'a6m3' sound, but I don't know who made them or where I got them (ie: zip file name). Will look for source. Of course the Ford Tri-Motor are good. Tried those already. Only this 'a6m3' sound has these little valve slap, prop whine thing that fits this ole jobbie. It's all good. Cheers.
Chuck B
Napamule
 
I also go by date

I go by date also as to which is the better or different model and going by the original file , I'am pretty sure their the same plane, other than the magnetic detector ring.I don't think your FDE would have worked other wise. It just comes up under Blohm@ Voss as a mine detector aircraft, which I can live with. it flys very well has a nice splash when taking off on the water and the wheels work too with the G key.
If we have any more to say about this plane ,maybe we better move it to the other thread before the moderators get mad at us.
 
sorry

Sorry ,I only hit the G key from the cockpit and never looked outside ,there are wheel sounds of wheels retracting and lowering but there are no wheels from the outside,. I believe you said something about this in your post ,that I would have to make some changes in the air file ,something bout spoilers and autopilot,I'd have to go back and look, but I don't really need wheels after all this was a seaplane not an amphibian,and you were good enough to provide this option for those who want it. Here I go again being in the wrong thread, sorry.
 
2 Diferent Model (Zips)

Hurricane,
Just to clarify: The zip in message #61 if for Ito's BV-138. The zip in message #69 is for Hein's BV-138. Just in case. And the cfg and air file must be used together. You can't use the cfg with your (old) air file, or use the air file with your (old) cfg. Won't work. OK? OK! You can rename any title, or variation, if you wish. Makes no diff to me. But PLEASE use the FDE set as it comes in zip, or all bets are off (because otherwise you WILL have problems). The cfg and air files are a matched pair that work together and might not work if used seperate. Change 'panel=' and/or 'sound=' as needed to tie in with NAMES you are using. CUL8R.
Chuck B
Napamule
 
don't worry

Don't worry I got the right zip ,if I got it wrong it wouldn't work. Only difference is the plane I used them on was the recon version . They are both the same plane, (the recon version and mine sweeper, it's just the mine sweeper has the magnetic loop around the plane, which is why under Blohm @ Voss it says mine sweeper. The plane flys fine and the panels and vc panels work perfectly. If they wern't the same or I got it wrong the plane wouldn't work right.I used both your airfile and config together and I didn't delet anything.To repeat and put your mind at ease I've flown the plane numerous times with no problems, so I must have got it right.
I'am not renaming anything cause the fact it says minesweeper instead of recon doesn't bother me.They have to be the same basic plane or your FDE wouldn't work.
 
by the way

When I said both planes are the same basic model I ment both Heins BV 138's not ITO's. I don't even know where to download ITO'S BV 138 and don't want too. If this is going to worry you ,I'll just get rid of the BV 138, I'am not being rude ,but I'am a worry'er also and don't want to stress you out. But the plane flys fine, honest.Have not had a CTD or any other problems. Another idea is if it's going to upset you I could get rid of the recon version and download the mine sweeper ,but I like the recon version better, maybe you could make an FDE for the recon version and I could replace the ones now with the new ones,but you really don't have to do that. As I said I didn't delete anything just put your files in an let them overwrite. Please don't worry about ths.
 
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