Legacy Aircraft
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Navy Chief
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Manschy, the jets, in my experience, do not seem to reach the high speeds as in P3D. I don't know how to adjust the aircraft's. cfg. file to compensate for MSFS2020's current limitations either. The handling is ok. The biggest problem that I have is throttle response. It is not working correctly. NC
Almost all of the FSX/P3D portovers fly just fine; at high subsonic and even supersonic. I would like to echo what NC said about the throttle response: Unlike native models, you cannot just throw the throttle around (for most of them), and you have to be quite gingerly especially when going from 0-100. From high to low it's not an issue really. Be sure you are flying in the Legacy Flight Model.
Here's the list that I have that work very well for me.
MILVIZ F-86
IRIS A-10
Dino's F-14
Metal2Mesh Mirage 2000
Lotus L-39
Razbam A-7 (Tweaked the aircraft.cfg quite a bit on that and changed .air file.)
And as for performance, I have zero issues with any of the ones mentioned above with the specs below. You results will vary based on your specs.
i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3)
32GB RAM (PC3200)
2080ti
2 1tb NVME2 Drives
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Navy Chief
Senior Member
GO Navy..... would you please share what your A-7.cfg tweaks are? It would be most appreciated!!
NC
DennyA
SOH-CM-2023
I'm more a fan of native planes, but I figured I'd try the Legacy Converter out on the Flight Replicas Bf-109Z I'd purchased for P3D right about the time I mostly stopped flying P3D. 
Worked really well for the most part! Instruments, transparency, and systems all seem good. Feels a bit underpowered and it's squirrely on takeoff, but that could probably be tweaked.
Worked really well for the most part! Instruments, transparency, and systems all seem good. Feels a bit underpowered and it's squirrely on takeoff, but that could probably be tweaked.
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Thanks very much, August !
Didn't think about the generic FSX wav files sofar but more important i completely forgat about the layout.json...
My excuse it's the first time i venture onto this slippery slope ( i just replaced the sound department of the Tigermoth Pro's layout.json and folder with that of the freeware version, worked right away)
Wondered a bit about "rebuild layout.json" initially but got a "MSFSLayout Generator" so i figure all clear now.
Thanks a lot again !
Cheers,
Jan
K5083
SOH-CM-2024
You can also rebuild layout.json just using the Legacy Importer.
At the main screen of Legacy Importer, click the P-51 on the right ("Select MSFS Aircraft"). Browse to your already imported legacy model folder. In the Init screen, click the "Rescan aircraft files" bar. That rebuilds the layout.json. Then close LI, you're done.
This process should work for the sounds on your Ant's Pro Tiger Moth too, unless Ant did something funky with DRM for those.
Can't help you with the visuals as I only have the free Tiggie and am happy with it. There's probably a way you can switch on the student pilot using ModelConverterX.
August
At the main screen of Legacy Importer, click the P-51 on the right ("Select MSFS Aircraft"). Browse to your already imported legacy model folder. In the Init screen, click the "Rescan aircraft files" bar. That rebuilds the layout.json. Then close LI, you're done.
This process should work for the sounds on your Ant's Pro Tiger Moth too, unless Ant did something funky with DRM for those.
Can't help you with the visuals as I only have the free Tiggie and am happy with it. There's probably a way you can switch on the student pilot using ModelConverterX.
August
That's just beautiful. Thanks August !
The sound with Ant's freeware Tiggie worked right away. In the Pro version the windsound was all that could be heared. But i didn't know then what i do know now.
Ah, Ok ! I'll give that a go. Never worked with ModelConverterX before. Will be interesting and maybe who knows i can get the two pilot figures back in the external model. Just one in the front seat looks funny somehow.
Many thanks again, August !
Cheers,
Jan
Hi folks, I am new here.
I came across this thread via google when trying to find out some more information and learn how to import planes as I am not having much luck at all with only the low end/simple planes kind of importing.
I had to register to post as the planes you have all worked on are amazing! Really great work getting them into MSFS.
I will be absorbing as much as I can from the forum but was wondering if there is anyone here that would maybe willing to converse/help with me on a more 1 to 1 level? Perhaps even help on a large rare conversion I'm trying to achieve but failing. (Yes I always jump in the deep end, have not seen it even attempted yet)
I have the aircraft importing, showing in menus, loading onto the runway with a lot of the cockpit appearing whilst not functioning but the outside is totally invisible. My partner has told me it's just stealth...
Loading into modelconverterx there are some errors showing and it fails to save as too detailed I believe.
Thank you to anyone willing to help me learn and look forward to seeing more of your awesome work. Can't wait to be able to do planes to the level you all are and enjoy them in flight.
Keep up the awesome work!
I came across this thread via google when trying to find out some more information and learn how to import planes as I am not having much luck at all with only the low end/simple planes kind of importing.
I had to register to post as the planes you have all worked on are amazing! Really great work getting them into MSFS.
I will be absorbing as much as I can from the forum but was wondering if there is anyone here that would maybe willing to converse/help with me on a more 1 to 1 level? Perhaps even help on a large rare conversion I'm trying to achieve but failing. (Yes I always jump in the deep end, have not seen it even attempted yet)
I have the aircraft importing, showing in menus, loading onto the runway with a lot of the cockpit appearing whilst not functioning but the outside is totally invisible. My partner has told me it's just stealth...
Loading into modelconverterx there are some errors showing and it fails to save as too detailed I believe.
Thank you to anyone willing to help me learn and look forward to seeing more of your awesome work. Can't wait to be able to do planes to the level you all are and enjoy them in flight.
Keep up the awesome work!
Hi folks, I am new here.
I came across this thread via google when trying to find out some more information and learn how to import planes as I am not having much luck at all with only the low end/simple planes kind of importing.
I had to register to post as the planes you have all worked on are amazing! Really great work getting them into MSFS.
I will be absorbing as much as I can from the forum but was wondering if there is anyone here that would maybe willing to converse/help with me on a more 1 to 1 level? Perhaps even help on a large rare conversion I'm trying to achieve but failing. (Yes I always jump in the deep end, have not seen it even attempted yet)
I have the aircraft importing, showing in menus, loading onto the runway with a lot of the cockpit appearing whilst not functioning but the outside is totally invisible. My partner has told me it's just stealth...
Loading into modelconverterx there are some errors showing and it fails to save as too detailed I believe.
Thank you to anyone willing to help me learn and look forward to seeing more of your awesome work. Can't wait to be able to do planes to the level you all are and enjoy them in flight.
Keep up the awesome work!
It sounds like it might be a payware model with visibility conditions set on the exterior model. If true, your only hope is for MCX to get an update that allows you to export the mdl. A number of people I've talked to have run into this issue.
Not to direct you away from these boards, but the MFS SDK discord server is a good place for instant messaging help; I'd consider asking specifics there if you don't get an answer here https://discord.gg/epmbyyx
Thank you very much!
Yes it is a rare payware model and why I'm wanting to keep it as personal as I can but understand I do need help if there is some available. It does load in MCX and looks good but fails to export with the main reason IIRC regarding the poly (or similar) size/amount being too much.
I do have experience of 3d modeling but for 3d printing movie props and replica... also some rc aircraft parts, which means I'm limited in the forms needed or understanding for this kind of work.
TBH I'd love to port over as many planes as I possibly can, I'm so eager to learn. I love FS 2020 and stream it for many hours often daily. More than happy to give credit to those that do help and/or advertise their logo if they have a page or something relating to their work, maybe even this forum if admins would like. least I can do.
I will check out the boards you suggested as well. Thank you!
Welcome to the forum! 
You probably realize this already, but I'm obligated to say it... What you do with your own payware on your own computer is your business, but just make sure it doesn't leave your computer - at least as far as this board is concerned. Even discussing it via PM could get SOH into legal hot water.
You probably realize this already, but I'm obligated to say it... What you do with your own payware on your own computer is your business, but just make sure it doesn't leave your computer - at least as far as this board is concerned. Even discussing it via PM could get SOH into legal hot water.I haven't used this in a very long time, but perhaps MDLMatXX can achieve what you need?
http://www.mwgfx.co.uk/beta.htm
fsafranek
SOH-CM-2024
Still looks/flies great after almost a decade and a half. A fantastic freeware that can be ported over with little effort.
The original FS2004 version by Kirk Olsson may be a decade and a half old by now but the one you are showing
here is only a few months old having been rebuilt by Henk Schuitemaker this past August.
Would be very interested if you would share your layout.json and manifest.json files for this one.
Also, VERY interested in what you did to get a HUD and the MFD screen working. Nice work!
Cirrus N210MS
Charter Member
if you know a fix for the flight replica hispano_ha_1112_buchon gauges wont show help please !
The original FS2004 version by Kirk Olsson may be a decade and a half old by now but the one you are showing
here is only a few months old having been rebuilt by Henk Schuitemaker this past August.
Would be very interested if you would share your layout.json and manifest.json files for this one.
Also, VERY interested in what you did to get a HUD and the MFD screen working. Nice work!
Morning. Thank you for bringing me up to speed in the developmental steps. I agree, I remember flying it in FS9/X but I hadn't touched in in P3D so I had forgotten about all about the developmental updates.
As for .json files, I have no issue sharing but quite frankly, I did not do anything special. This is almost straight out of the box. Very limited changes I made were:
1) Used the most up to date legacy importer (look on the bottom of the page for version O.25) https://www.nexusmods.com/microsoftflightsimulator/mods/117?tab=files
2) Add the GENHUD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KY56DMCJCY
3) Since the fuel tanks and weapons systems/missile rails were not showing up, I used the MCX to remove visibility conditions.
This is super easy, all done in about 10 minutes.
I do not have that aircraft. I only have FR P-40N and that seems to be fine. I am sure there's nothing MCX cannot fix or replace. That and a video from Alex Marko.