Victory103
SOH-CM-2024
NC, that is great to see and very interested now that I might be able to at least fly all my mil trainers in the new sim. Continuing to follow the progress.
Legacy Aircraft
- Thread starter Seahawk72s
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You will have to do the conversions yourself I am afraid as without authorisation from the original aircraft devs, they should not be distributed. However, I made a guide to help you
Check out my post on the prev page.
YoYo
SOH-CM-2023
Thank You!
Manschy
SOH-CM-2023
odourboy
SOH-CM-2020
I'm going to throw these out here... don't know if anyone can suggest anything, but after porting all the aircraft.cfg and airfile data for the Lotus L-39 into MSFS, a few observations on it's handling (I'm using the 'modern' flight model FWIW):
1) Response to flight controls is sluggish - they seem to have about half the 'authority' then P3D, e.g. a roll in P3D takes about 4 seconds, it takes 8 in MSFS. Aileron, Elevator & Rudder all equally lacking. I also noticed that the amount of physical deflection of the control surfaces in the animations are significantly reduced at speed compared to on the ground. Coincidence (this does NOT occur in P3D)? Any ideas as to what tables/variables to look at?
2) Jet engine seems significantly overpowered... to the drag is wrong. Thoughts?
3) The landing gear is fine when starting cold and dark (i.e. at a gate/ramp parking spot), but on a runway, ready to fly, landing gear is retracted. Has anyone figured out how to fix this?
1) Response to flight controls is sluggish - they seem to have about half the 'authority' then P3D, e.g. a roll in P3D takes about 4 seconds, it takes 8 in MSFS. Aileron, Elevator & Rudder all equally lacking. I also noticed that the amount of physical deflection of the control surfaces in the animations are significantly reduced at speed compared to on the ground. Coincidence (this does NOT occur in P3D)? Any ideas as to what tables/variables to look at?
2) Jet engine seems significantly overpowered... to the drag is wrong. Thoughts?
3) The landing gear is fine when starting cold and dark (i.e. at a gate/ramp parking spot), but on a runway, ready to fly, landing gear is retracted. Has anyone figured out how to fix this?
fsafranek
SOH-CM-2024
Thank you very much for the files. It worked perfectly to get the bird in the game. Er, I mean the aircraft in the sim.
She looks pretty dang good. Especially for a model from a decade ago.
As you said, the radios don't work and there are some gauges with no needles but there was enough to safely fly her. Hoping the sim evolves to support more gauge types.
1) from going through things, I think we need to include the TOTAL wing area now and not just the top surface, so doubling those Surface Area values seems to display the sim forces in the right area on my native conversion.
2) Sorry haven't messed with Jets, sticking with Pistons
3)Hmm not seem this sorry.
My pleasure
This happened to me following the latest patch...don't know if it was a one off or will happen again.CheersKeith
I would be very happy to help with that!
Are you wanting to do a quick port over our a full native conversion?
I can have the port over done in an afternoon, full native takes a little longer
Very happy to walk you through the process as well!
warchild
Charter Member
Yes of course. Dean and I put a lot of love into those P61C's and I love them dearly, But Robert and I and Paul Frimston put five years into the P-61Bs. While I can say that the P-61C is a superlative aircraft, I'm afraid that in my heart, nothing will ever come close to what we accomplished with the P-61B's even in their non-complete state. They are simply wonderful. But no, I cannot release them. Robert never gave permission and even though its been 8 years, I respect that he may finish them some day. My Flight models of course went on to power the P-61C's and F-15 Reporter/P-61E. I cannot recommend them enough, but my original love is the P-61B, and like all true Ladies, you need only meet one and everything else after that is just another plane.
centuryseries
SOH-CM-2023
In the options under Flight model, it's possible to change it to 'FSX' settings, but in my experience, the plane flies even worse than default MSFS FSX import.
With regards the runway start- edit the runway.flt file and look for anything related to landing gear.
odourboy
SOH-CM-2020
I couldn't even get it off the ground with the legacy flight model.
Tried editing the runway.flt... I'll go back and check it again.
Thanks for wading in!
UPDATE:
1) There are new tables in the flight_model.cfg called aileron, elevator, rudder and trim_elasticity_table; I was using the C4J values in here as a starting point and this was causing me issues. The aileron response is now peppy! Other issues with the other surfaces, but getting there.
3) Doh! I edited the runway.flt, then forget to include it in the aircraft folder. Helps when it's there!
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Hey Sundog, I've spoken to Dean and he doesn't have time to do those conversions and was just playing around with the PlaneConverter (doesn't actually convert anything just creates the right folder structure) tool.
He is happy however for anyone else who might like to tackle their conversions (with due credit and notification of course) but has lost the original 3D Assets.
Sundog
SOH-CM-2024
Dang, I didn't know that. Well, hopefully someone brings them over. It's cool that he is open to letting someone bring them over to MSFS, though.
Ken
