The traditional post here if you are up and running P3

Arrived this evening and I'm installing now.

Of course today of all days my girlfriend want to go visit her brother and his family so I only have 1/2 hour to install and play.
 
Wow probably wrong thread to put all these in to discuss but here goes..

My very first mission I tried a simple training flight, but got this error:

Patch DLL Error: Game terminated prematurely

We have had 1 other report of that seems to be a rare timing issue - also seems to happen with 1 French squad possibly.

I rebooted, and went straight to a campaign mission. HAD A BLAST, and downed a Halberstadt while flying an N17b, BUT was never given an opportunity to make a claim!!! That part of the OFF3 manager failed to appear. Man was I pissed... :karate:

Again seems rare, if in doubt with some of these glitches you see maybe make sure of a clean install, remove via Add/Remove programs and reinstall, and re install OFF - this will properly clean the OFF registry out.

Different pilot, second mission, again a campaign, and the game hung up after I paused it mid-mission. Had to do the 3-finger salute to exit a non-responsive OFF3 Manager.

Not sure what that is but could be anything, for example on my rig even with plain CFS3 if a background program pops up over it, or if you alt tab I get this often with CFS3. Sometimes when targetting I do it too. Vista works better for me in testing.

However, I'm not seeing those end-of-mission landing animations anymore, you know, pilot walks away smiling, or kissing the ground, or....


We had to remove, as added our own new improved pilots (also kills missing pilot issue).

1) I can't see where to activate reflections anymore


They are just "on". Reading below ..aircraft on 5 might get your reflections back btw, or it's video settings.

2) it looks like I have Z-buffer issues for the textures of bridges at a distance --they are flashing, as well as ONLY the types of trees placed around airfields, all other trees OK.

There is some sometimes on bridges and airfield trees, it's how CFS3 renders T&L. Not much we can do about that at the moment - depends on support if we can update or move to a new engine.

3) I can't alter the anti-aliasing settings in the OFF3/CFS3 Config. file. I've tried to set it to 2, or 3, or 4, and hit OK each time, and it immediately goes to "none". It ain't sticking AT ALL

CFS3 issue will add this to the FAQ later:

Q22. How do I set my AA (Anti-Aliasing) properly, the aircraft edges or scenery looks jaggy.

A22. Launch CFS3config (now accessible via a button in Workshop menu!)- make sure you set up Anti-Aliasing samples as high as possible:

Go to File menu, choose Change display options, and set up AA to highest samples and click OK. Go to FILE, EXIT (do NOT close using [X] box in top right). If you do it will not be saved. Also the AA settings will not be shown correctly there if you go back (but if you set then save as above they ARE saved).

Then in your Graphics card setup (right click on desktop to get to them normally) set up to "override application settings" for AA, and set AA to whatever samples you require 2x 4 x etc.

4) I'm flying formation "by rank", and love the concept, but the flight lead so far has always ended up solo and several thousand feet above the rest of the flight.

By Rank issues are explained in the FAQ. We are also working on further improving AI navigation as we speak.

5) ... Can the OFF3 manager not be made to tell you the a/c number of each pilot in your flight ahead of time so one could simply jot this down?

Maybe yes if we get more support we can add more features.
 
Installed just fine! My first flight was 47 mins.
Thank you for all your hard work!!

:monkies::monkies::monkies:
 
Greetings All,
BHa&H installed tonight and all systems GO! The install process was slick as snot on a door knob. Everything works, IR4, all input controls. Now I need to get re-trained on the flight mods--man, they are gooood. Great job, fellows.

In P2, I had some of the override settings in Config.exe 'tweaked', like in Overrides the High Res Z Buffer and Terrain Detail Textue. Should those be cleared for P3? And in the Texure Info page, should those settings be re-set to 'default'?
 
Up and running did install over existing phase 2 no problems running smoothly.

All I can say is WOW!

Thanks,

OFF TEAM:friday:
 
glad to hear it Old Tiger :)

Nope P3 takes you directly to mission now, and immediately back.

You can turn these features off in workshops (far left) to be more like the old P2, but OFF is designed to run better with them on.

Also the olde CFS3 QC is there from workshop- again only there for compatibility sakes.

:wave:Thanks Pov.;) Ya Learn someten new every day.
:guinness:
 
hello all,
on saturday after work i expected pretty pissed to see in my open mailbox at home the same as the last couple days. nothing besides bills or some stuff about new pizza restaurants and stuff like this. suddenly some package fell right into my hand. as soon as i realised what it was, i started to dance and shoot with two revolvers in the air, like the carsalesman with the cowboyhat at the simpsons show.at least in my mind. so i jumped to the 3rd floor, taking about 8 steps at once and installed it (very intuitive and easy menu,good job devs). as soon as i created a pilot, murphy's law prooved to be true, because my girlfriend called me on my cell and had to tell me about 74 stories which lasted about 6 hours (subjective feeling). i didn't have a clou what she was talking about cause i stared all the time at the monitor, my pilot whispering to me all the time to get him in the air finally!:typing:,although i tried to listen. ok. so i want to share some of my new experiences.
first of all i tried the settings for mediocre systems (original cfs in full settings ran with about 60 fps) in quick flight, only to find out i had a fps between 9 and 20 (depending where i was looking with trackir), without any action somewhere at all beside rain. so i tweaked around with resolution, settings lowering step by step so i have right now in campaign about between 14 and 40 fps (although i am wondering why sometimes the same weather and activity runs faster, and sometimes slows down in a different mission in the same enviroment). after some trial and error i finally managed to delete the twist rudders, using only the saitek rudders. ok :woot:
the first mission (jasta 2 september 1916) we had to destroy a british sausage, so after getting airborne and circling around i warped near the action. everybody was there, but i noticed nobody tried to attack the ballon (i was the lowest rank in that flight,settings in fly by rank). searching myself for the ballon i lost the others, but after spotting it i tried to take it down alone by myself. don't know where the others were. so i destroyed the sausage and shortly after that feeling and hearing some hits with the message of some french name in a nieuport shooting at me. i looked around seeing nobody (damn, i love trackir), but then i saw a single nieuport below the clouds behind me hardly visible, so i turned around to begin the usual circling. being used to rb3d's ai i expected him to fly about and to dance before again trying to get to my six, but not here, not this time. everything i tried to shake him of was senseless, cause he seemed to be tied on a rope at my tail. finally i crashed and gone was my first career.
after i watched this new mission replay thing. on thing i noticed is though the french pilot had a name whilst shooting at me, in the replay it said only "nieuport blabla swiss cheese of your albatros blabla", so there was no name. one thing i do not like either is the stats overload. how fast was my bullet, and how far away was my plane while looking to the left related to the soldier sitting in a truck on a road at douai (just kidding, but everybody knows what i mean.)
all i can say is, the scenerie is really stunning (though beeing pretty lowend like it seems), the ai is brutal. the devs really created a hell of a game which i like to thank them for 10000000000 times. the little things like the wind you can feel in your stick and which is shaking your craft every now and then, the landscapes...could talk forever about the good things.
i tried a second campaign. i do not like to use warp often, only when in pressure of having only little time to fly. but in my second campaign i got airborne, looked where the others were, hit warp, got out of warp, dead because collidied with a mate. third campaign. same result. so right now i don't dare to use warp, especially if i have a pilot with a kind of carrer going. if anybody has a hint how to avoid it, please tell me.
the last mission i flew yesterday was to escort some rolands to bomb a target. so without using warp, i circled some time over my airfield and following the leader. then we met the two seaters, escorted them to the target and back. the mission said to patrol the area for 13 minutes, so i circled around with my mates at the roland drome for quite a time since my girlfriend arrived and i had to land there at their drome. does anybody know if the leader, after the assigned time is leading you back to your drome and everybody is landing? or is it similar to rb3d where they usually fly above till your gas tank is empty or crashing most of the times when trying to land?

one last question before finally ending my boring novel here. i know there are some threads about it, but i would like to upgrade my system and i am pretty much a nontechnical embryo amongst the others here.
i have a amd phenom(tm) quad core with 2.21 GHz, 3,5 GB ram and a nvidia 8600gt. as far as i would say, the videocard is the weakest spot in my rig, so i am considering to buy a better one which is compatible with the rest of the system so far, and which should rise my fps to beeing at constant 40s or higher and with higher settings. any ideas (i am sorry, i feel like a worm, asking an eagle what to buy to make him fly either, but i really don't have a clou about all this stuff). any suggestion would be appreciated.
@devs
thank you for the greatest game of all times IMHO, a game i dreamt about since playing wings on amiga for the first time. thank you.

creaghorn
 
Up and running on Vista 64 Home Premium.

Up and running on Vista 64 Home Premium.

Here is what popped-up when first loaded;

1. Update to CFS3, 3.1 & 3.1a ... said CFS3 was still running .... did restart, okay, updated. Did one flight in CFS3.

2. Loaded BHaH, no issues. While loading I had time to make breakfast, the bed, some laundry .... LOL!

3. Went to BHaH Workshop ... did setting .... had to restart for them to take effect. No issue.

4. First flight in BHaH .... said CFS3 was not config'd .... Went to BHaH Workshop and did re-config CFS3 ..... restart .... worked fine after.

5. Did a few QC in BHah .... got my a$$ shot off all times, which is good could stand to loose a few pounds anyway, so my day of flying went like, died, Hospital, died, died, Hospital ..... you get the drift.

Had a ball! Excellent job!

Just one comment, if your flying for the Father Land, you should have ... contact and clear in German. Thought I was on the wrong field .. guy's!

Smiling from ear-to-ear! :applause:

WF2
 
I am up and running. I decided to wipe P2 and CFS 3 completely form my hard drive and install everything fresh. Unfortunately I do not have any time this weekend but a first fast glimpse on P3 has revealed that you did a fantastic job.

Cheers
 
Up and running here in Missouri thanks for a wonderful product. It is greatly appreciated. Thanks to the Dev team for their continued support. You guys are the best:woot:
 
Up & running. Low end machine. Frame rate 10-20! First campaign flying with French Esc Americaine.
2nd mission escorting 4 Sop Strutters to bomb enemy airfield - 3 flew into side of mountain.
 
Up and running in Washington State.

New to OFF but have lots of flight sim experience.

First impresion is Great.
 
Up and running! Been a while since I've been on this board. I hibernated from P2 waiting for P3, but I lurked here often. I had to update TrackIR, but other than that I had no troubles loading up on a Vista machine. I played for 3 hours last night and I am happy to say it was worth the wait. Bust your asses to get the word out Winder and company, you deserve some $$ and you ought to win some "mod of the year" awards. A thousand thanks from me for your creative effort.
 
Thanks guys we are a small team but worked hard for a further 1.5 years since P2 to make this and we hope you now really enjoy it and post lots!

btw creaghorn your comments about the girlfriend cracked me up :d
Sounds like you re having a great time
 
New Here. And new to the OFF series.

Received and installed OFF 3 days ago after installing CFS3 and the 3.1 update but not without a lot of head scratching trying to figure out how and where to set the screen resolution as well as other config related issues. Not having had experience with the previous OFF offerings it would have been really helpful for the unintiated like me to have a simple notification included with the DVD of where to find the game Readme and the existence of the game online FAQ.

Still experimenting in Free Flight mode and Quick Combat to find the optimum graphics settings and frame rate combination. While I can run the game at full option settings the penalty is only the upper 30's max frame rate and drops into to the 20's near the ground. Backing off the scenery and terrain settings from 5 to 3 while leaving the remaining options at max my average frame rate will reach the upper 50's. Frankly I was surprised I couldn't run the game at full settings with a E8400 in tandem with a GTX 260 216 core SC (super clocked) card with some additional over clock cranked in.

At any rate, from what little I've seen so far this game should be as engrossing as Flying Corps was - which I thoroughly enjoyed.
 
Hi good point Over50, as we are web based and the purchase is via our web we hope people will take a look at the FAQ and other pages first but yep even CFS3 is was a little tricky to get to know.

OFF has up to 226 craft many with unique high res skins in the air, and the exandability of the CFS3 engine has been used extensively, high res scenery tiles and settings (and you'll notice in most regions it's hard to see repeatition. The engine is amazing and expandable and we have stuffed it full of goodies - there's a war on down below too with troops vehicles etc).

With a similar setup as you (8400 but o/c to 3.6, GTX280) I run with all on max (apart from terrain 4) @1920x1200 with 16AA and 16 Aniso, and get 30-60 fps).

You may need some tweaking in cfsconfig, but that can come as you learn about CFS3 and OFF - maybe worth looking into a little overclock on the CPU it's made for it :)

Enjoy anyway !
 
Hi good point Over50, as we are web based and the purchase is via our web we hope people will take a look at the FAQ and other pages first but yep even CFS3 is was a little tricky to get to know.

OFF has up to 226 craft many with unique high res skins in the air, and the exandability of the CFS3 engine has been used extensively, high res scenery tiles and settings (and you'll notice in most regions it's hard to see repeatition. The engine is amazing and expandable and we have stuffed it full of goodies - there's a war on down below too with troops vehicles etc).

With a similar setup as you (8400 but o/c to 3.6, GTX280) I run with all on max (apart from terrain 4) @1920x1200 with 16AA and 16 Aniso, and get 30-60 fps).

You may need some tweaking in cfsconfig, but that can come as you learn about CFS3 and OFF - maybe worth looking into a little overclock on the CPU it's made for it :)

Enjoy anyway !

Would you please elaborate on "tweaking the cfsconfig"...(what to look for/change/set) ?

As for bumping up my CPU, I had been running it at a modest 3.6 but other than a measurable bump with 3DMark06 I wasn't seeing that much of a FPS increase in an actual game. As an aside I did push it to 3.9 GHz and even though my core and NB, SB temps never got above the low 50's C with my air cooling I chickened out and set it back to 3.6..

Again, though, I'm curious about the "tweaking" the CFS config you've mentioned. On top of this I suppose I should try running the CPU at a relatively safe 3.6 again and see how it correlates to OFF preformance.
 
Well firstly CFS3 will greatly benefit from more CPU so before you change anything that's the first thing I'd do.

I didn't put my comment in bold as it's not the be all and end all. Quick example small improvements, turning off labels, and Z key readout for example 1-2fps. Also others find disabling read vertex and index buffers (or even write buffers) help etc.

There are various sites on improving CFS3 and I'm sure others can link to those, many settings that some will find work others not, but right now until you are familiar I wouldn't mess with cfsconfig more.

As I say try the o/c to 3.6 first and see if you can run on 4 or it feels better.
 
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