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USS Oriskany SCB-27C/125A
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That Hermes Looks Fantastic Gary, well done. In truth I've been begging for a 60's Hermes for a very long time now so any contribution from you or Skippy would be very much appreciated looking forward to your 82' though!
Just a suggestion, you could also have her as 72'-80' Commando carrier by just removing the Ski jump. I just found some photos in a book I've been reading and that's pretty much the only visual difference I can see. Just thought I'd mention it.
Hooky
Just a suggestion, you could also have her as 72'-80' Commando carrier by just removing the Ski jump. I just found some photos in a book I've been reading and that's pretty much the only visual difference I can see. Just thought I'd mention it.
Hooky
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Just a suggestion, you could also have her as 72'-80' Commando carrier by just removing the Ski jump. I just found some photos in a book I've been reading and that's pretty much the only visual difference I can see. Just thought I'd mention it.
Hooky
The Commando conversion also involved cutting away the deck above where the LCVP are mounted, plus a few other bits and pieces. I'm trying to track down some decent plans but there don't seem to be any from earlier than then which makes it more difficult. It doesn't help that I know there was a modification to extend the port catapult for Bucc S2 operations in the mid-60s...
Some interesting points chaps.....I'll see what I can do and maybe come up with a close approximation of the three Hermes variants....it won't be like skippy's fancy flying stations contraptions with his baked textures and la de da rotating radomes but a basic model with my usual naff textures.
In other words I'll keep it simple- a bit like myself!
(Just kidding on skips stuff.....getting to his level with some of his creations is what I aspire to, and the reason I started tinkering with modelling in the first place)
That and a stirring interest in all things naval after a chuffing great Goliath crane appeared on the skyline one day and some big red things started floating up the Forth....
Cheers
G
In other words I'll keep it simple- a bit like myself!
(Just kidding on skips stuff.....getting to his level with some of his creations is what I aspire to, and the reason I started tinkering with modelling in the first place)
That and a stirring interest in all things naval after a chuffing great Goliath crane appeared on the skyline one day and some big red things started floating up the Forth....
Cheers
G
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Does anyone know if there is a version of the Oriskany without the static Skyhawks available? Thanks
For a freeware Oriskany you're pretty much limited to Gary Payne's deck which you are already familiar with. For payware 27-Charlie carriers CIMOGT has a nice package of three ships: Lexington, Hancock, and Bon Homme Richard. Target market was P3D for all the animations to work but the ships work fine in FSX, just without the eye candy features. $11 at SimMarket. Bonnie Dick would be a good stand-in for Oriskany if I could figure out how to change the hull #'s on the flight deck and island. 
They appear to be part of the ship's .mdl file.
They appear to be part of the ship's .mdl file.
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Yea what I was trying to do (and I tried to PM the author)... Is remove the static Skyhawks and then change the numbers of this ship so I can make a Yorktown, Intrepid, Hornet and Lexington; then place them as static museum ships where they rest today... Since the only other models of these ships are the earlier versions with the WW2 style bows modifying the Oriskany seemed like the best option... While I was already able to do the number changes... As you mentioned in the MCX viewer / parts grouping, removing the Skyhawk exhaust parts and landing gear also removes a chunk of the ships structure with it... Admittedly that is one of my bigger irritations with MCX is it does tend to combine parts that were not previously combined in FSDS, and does not at this time have a means of breaking things apart again so as to selectively delete things... As for the display aircraft I was going to place static versions of some of the AI aircraft I have converted for MAIW in the past on to the deck to match the planes there today... So I have placed some Tomcats...
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Thanks! They may not have but then again these are the actual Tomcats that rest on them now... Also on the Intrepid there are plenty of aircraft resting on her deck that never flew off of her or any carrier for that matter (F-16, A-12 Oxcart, Kfir, Space shuttle) just to name a few.. This is a pic I am using for reference:
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Out of curiosity did your static model still have the A-4s on it? I was able to go through my old files and find an earlier version of this ship and while I was able to get the A-4s removed... I still had issues in that on the port side of the ship the underside of the deck is now missing as is the framing for the elevator... My goal was to just make the museum ships and use MCX to place them as scenery...
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Bummer... I will see what I can do to find a way to get rid of them; but not looking promising... Unfortunately, I can't seem to find any other previous releases of this ship that I can try to work with or source parts from, and have not heard back from Gary P yet... So far this is as far as I have been able to get... But it has some glitches:
1. As you can see the gantry work for the port elevator as well as I underside of the port deck missing...
2. The parts for the two rotating antennas were also attached to the Skyhawks and the parts I could import from other ships had the fixed antennas attached...
1. As you can see the gantry work for the port elevator as well as I underside of the port deck missing...
2. The parts for the two rotating antennas were also attached to the Skyhawks and the parts I could import from other ships had the fixed antennas attached...
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Well I am now super happy to report I did it!!!!
Here is how for those who may want to know for future use:
1. Using MCX I isolated and saved the parts I needed, but not as a .mdl files but rather as collada .dae files
2. I then opened the collada files using blender and in blender used the vertex editor to delete the unwanted parts by removing their vertices
3. I then exported the newly modified parts back into collada .dae files
4. Using MCX I then merged the new parts back into the model (some transformations may be needed for parts alignment) and re-assigned the materials using the material editor feature.
5. Probably need not be said but remove the old original parts that had the unwanted components in them...
It was a labor intensive process and took a while but this opens up a ton of doors! Also of note the final model does need to be re-constructed in MCX as the animations and material assignments are all lost during export to a .dae file.... So keep the original model handy and use it for your final...
Here is how for those who may want to know for future use:
1. Using MCX I isolated and saved the parts I needed, but not as a .mdl files but rather as collada .dae files
2. I then opened the collada files using blender and in blender used the vertex editor to delete the unwanted parts by removing their vertices
3. I then exported the newly modified parts back into collada .dae files
4. Using MCX I then merged the new parts back into the model (some transformations may be needed for parts alignment) and re-assigned the materials using the material editor feature.
5. Probably need not be said but remove the old original parts that had the unwanted components in them...
It was a labor intensive process and took a while but this opens up a ton of doors! Also of note the final model does need to be re-constructed in MCX as the animations and material assignments are all lost during export to a .dae file.... So keep the original model handy and use it for your final...
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Now if I can just get the permission to share these once they are done... Granted probably wont be any time very soon...