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Virtavia E-2C Released

Admins, not sure how you guys feel about it but it might be safe to assume that this thread has run it's course (just so things don't spiral further downward).
 
I hope you don´t mind if i disagree with you StormILM. No need to close it i think, if people refrain from give opinion on Virtavia´s business (myself included) and start to talk about the plane itself. I saw pretty good information about who´s doing paints for it already, it´s flaws, corrections on the way, etc. I may go for it if some corrections described on the topic surface in the future
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It seems that Repaints may be an issue.

Groom Lake Sims have declared they are closing their production line of repaints following the discovery of mirroring used on the Vertical stabilizers.

Sad news indeed.

There goes all the CAG birds I was planning.....
 
There's light at the end of the tunnel afterall. I saw where Dino posted that he is going ahead with both an E-2C and C-2A and aiming for a 2017 release! I will gladly buy both models when the time comes.
 
Novawing24 said:
It seems that Repaints may be an issue.

Groom Lake Sims have declared they are closing their production line of repaints following the discovery of mirroring used on the Vertical stabilizers.

Sad news indeed.

There goes all the CAG birds I was planning.....
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The vertical fins themselves were not mirrored. They were reversed on the starboard sides which is an inconvenience but is not the end of the world and certainly would not put a stop to repaints. The issue was that one texture for the back half of the fin, the moving split rudder, had been reused for all four surfaces. This worked perfectly for the customer's requirements, and anyone who just wanted to fly it as is, but not so much for us repainters. Anything that takes up half the surface us going to have some unusual markings in it so that had to be fixed if any repaints were going to happen.

A couple fellow simmers on FB pointed this out to me and I forwarded their example images to Phil. Based on the new MDL file I checked out last night that has issue has been corrected. There was enough room on the texture to add in three more rudder sections.

My understanding is that all of the files have been sent to DTG so it is on their timeline now for pushing down the updates.
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StormILM said:
Admins, not sure how you guys feel about it but it might be safe to assume that this thread has run it's course (just so things don't spiral further downward).
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Hardly. We're just getting started. You chose to bug out too soon. Please don't ruin it for the rest of everyone else. Things are getting fixed through this discussion. No spiral downward. I'm trying to bring positive reports with each post. Let it run the normal 10 days please.
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fsafranek said:
The vertical fins themselves were not mirrored. They were reversed on the starboard sides which is an inconvenience but is not the end of the world and certainly would not put a stop to repaints. The issue was that one texture for the back half of the fin, the moving split rudder, had been reused for all four surfaces. This worked perfectly for the customer's requirements, and anyone who just wanted to fly it as is, but not so much for us repainters. Anything that takes up half the surface us going to have some unusual markings in it so that had to be fixed if any repaints were going to happen.

A couple fellow simmers on FB pointed this out to me and I forwarded their example images to Phil. Based on the new MDL file I checked out last night that has issue has been corrected. There was enough room on the texture to add in three more rudder sections.

My understanding is that all of the files have been sent to DTG so it is on their timeline now for pushing down the updates.
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You have no idea how excited and happy I am to hear that!

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fsafranek said:
Hardly. We're just getting started. You chose to bug out too soon. Please don't ruin it for the rest of everyone else. Things are getting fixed through this discussion. No spiral downward. I'm trying to bring positive reports with each post. Let it run the normal 10 days please.
:ernaehrung004:
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Frank and crew to the rescue ! This bird has potential , just hold on people !
 
If Virtavia E-2C is avaliable in Israeli air force livery for FSX Deluxe with SP1 and SP2, then Virtavia can count on me as SECOND TIME customer as long as it is on sale. Bought their C-17 Globemaster last year or 2 years ago and it is AWESOME!

Regards,

Aharon
 
Aharon said:
If Virtavia E-2C is avaliable in Israeli air force livery for FSX Deluxe with SP1 and SP2, then Virtavia can count on me as SECOND TIME customer as long as it is on sale. Bought their C-17 Globemaster last year or 2 years ago and it is AWESOME!

Regards,

Aharon
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I'm waiting for Phil to get the go-ahead from DTG before he sends me the texture masters. My part of the textures are finished, just waiting for the panel line and stencil layers. The Israel Air Force E-2C were painted in the two grays the F-15s were painted in so not just a matter of painting on the Star of David insignia.

Something you should realize thought, this model only works in the FSX-SE version from Dovetail Games via Steam. On sale now by the way.
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As a long time customer of Alphasim and then Virtavia, I hate to see us FSX "Original" customers shut out. I for one do not care for how Steam does business. I will be with FSX/Acceleration until it runs it's course and then migrate to P3D. I am NOT knocking anyone or their preferences, simply stating my opinion.
 
Frank,

Thanks for answers and for painting Israeli air force livery. I am hoping that Virtavia will release this model for FSX Deluxe with SP1 and SP2 use.

Very kind and awesome of you to paint Israeli air force livery for that plane!

Since I notice you are official Virtavia livery painter staff member, I am wondering if you do fictional repaints. I always want Israeli air force livery on Virtavia C-17 Globemaster.

Regards,

Aharon
 
Aharon said:
Frank,

Thanks for answers and for painting Israeli air force livery. I am hoping that Virtavia will release this model for FSX Deluxe with SP1 and SP2 use.

Very kind and awesome of you to paint Israeli air force livery for that plane!

Since I notice you are official Virtavia livery painter staff member, I am wondering if you do fictional repaints. I always want Israeli air force livery on Virtavia C-17 Globemaster.

Regards,

Aharon
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If you read this entire thread and you will see that this E-2C does not belong to Virtavia, it belongs Dovetail Games on Steam.
And as such it has been encrypted to only work on their version of FSX and not the old boxed FSX or P3D. Again, ... sorry.
And sorry again, I don't paint fiction (unless it's a Mirage).
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Oh I see Thanks for clarification and explanations. Did not realize that E-2C is exclusive property of Dovetail company.

Thanks again,

Aharon
 
Mods and Developers - Since there are going to be DTG only Steam addons, would it make sense to either, make a dedicated stickie thread for those addons - or - ask that they be placed in the DTG FSX Steam forum (is there one?)

Seems to me we could avoid some frustration or extra distraction in this forum if some steps were taken on this.
 
heywooood said:
Mods and Developers - Since there are going to be DTG only Steam addons, would it make sense to either, make a dedicated stickie thread for those addons - or - ask that they be placed in the DTG FSX Steam forum (is there one?)

Seems to me we could avoid some frustration or extra distraction in this forum if some steps were taken on this.
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I understand your concern Heywooood but we seem to be growing FsX related forums:dizzy: I would however like posters of new releases to check whether they are Dovetail exclusive and post as such so we FsXA users don't waste our time!
 
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