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Rafale C for FS2004

As mentioned by Blackbird686, simply change the ui_manufacturer= line. I suggest ui_manufacturer=Money Grubbing Pocket Pickers :icon_lol:
 
Well :censored:. I guess a lot can change in a couple days. We were just emailing about it yesterday.

And WhyTF did DA take down the flightsim page from their Passions section? Being listed on there was one of my 'claims to fame'. :crybaby: Well, at least I can still see it on the Internet wayback machine.

This is really not good news. I hope they don't decide to go after websites that include their name. Might be time for some "find and replace" work on my website. What was that new name you suggested aeronca1? :icon_lol:

:banghead:
 
I hate to say it but I think they hosed themselves in this case by doing things the "right" way. Another site on the internet still has the Rafale prominently featured as a free download. Will not mention the site or the file to avoid Dassault reprisals. - :censored:.

@ aeronca1 - pocket picking usually involves subtlety. In my opinion, robbers or something more violent is more appropriate.
 
Blackbird686 said:
I wonder if the model had been a Mirage 2000, or other Mirage aircraft, what would have happened?
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If I was a cynic...... wait, I am a cynic!!

I think part of the problem here is Mirage (in it's various incarnations) was a runaway success, including plenty of export orders. Rafale, while undoubtedly a fine aircraft & definitely better looking than Typhoon, has been a commercial disaster; they have one final chance with the Indian order (if it ever happens) & all the smart money os on Typhoon for that one as well. So it is kind of an embarrassment for them.
 
i've figured the ui_manufacturer= line.......

D-Ass-Hole (Sounds like the correct pronunciation of Dassault which is, and i'm sure the french speakers will agree here... Dass-oh/Dass-O) :icon_lol:
 
Matt Wynn said:
i've figured the ui_manufacturer= line.......D-Ass-Hole (Sounds like the correct pronunciation of Dassault which is, and i'm sure the french speakers will agree here... Dass-oh/Dass-O) :icon_lol:
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Well, hello Matt. I've been wondering where you've been. Check your p.ms.

Romeo-Delta
 
The situation is getting some traction outside the flightsim community. Emmanuel Dorne, aka "Korben", a well-known French blogger, has written about the situation in his blog. He even links to this thread as well as a popular Mirage related website (even borrowed an image of the aircraft in question). The title says it all, "Red Card for DA". If your French is rusty you can translate it in bits at "world.altavista.com" to get the jist -- pretty much what we've been saying here.
:ernae:
 
fsafranek said:
The situation is getting some traction outside the flightsim community. Emmanuel Dorne, aka "Korben", a well-known French blogger, has written about the situation in his blog. He even links to this thread as well as a popular Mirage related website (even borrowed an image of the aircraft in question). The title says it all, "Red Card for DA". If your French is rusty you can translate it in bits at "world.altavista.com" to get the jist -- pretty much what we've been saying here.
:ernae:
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And there is 72 comments from french citizens below Korben's blob concerning this sitation.
They are not veru pleased with Dassault Aviation bizarre attitude for a freeware !

Reading these comments, its seems that some Flightsimmers could have personnally wrote to Dassault to protest
about it heir attitude and that one of them "could" have received this email answer from Dassault :

"Be informed that Dassault Aviation actually studying a solution which satisfies all these impassioned and which
could answer your waitings. Good weekend".

If and only if this email is true and officially from Dassault, this could be a good news for the Rafala VPA Team.
But this comment remains to be confirmed and it could be a false one.

Lets hope for the best !
:kilroy:
Vaporz
 
We'll see. :kilroy:

There are other things about this that have not been made public. And while this may resolve things for VPA, what happens to Roland's Rafale for FSX? He has the Rafale B essentially finished but he can't release it or his original C/M. Razbam is saying they are going to make the entire Mirage F1 family this year (after the Harrier, after the A-4 series, ...). Restauravia has the Mirage III family already in the works. And ALS-SIM (Mark Harper) is rebuilding his Mirage package. Three of these mentioned are payware. VPA's first release at least is intended as freeware.

Will everyone making a Dassault related payware/freeware product (repaints, panels, sound files, etc.) have to jump through the same hoops including paying Dassault, and then see their product available the next day for free on the torrent sites?

OK, stepping off the soapbox.
:ernae:
 
fsafranek said:
We'll see. :kilroy: VPA's first release at least is intended as freeware.

Will everyone making a Dassault related payware/freeware product (repaints, panels, sound files, etc.) have to jump through the same hoops including paying Dassault, and then see their product available the next day for free on the torrent sites?

OK, stepping off the soapbox.
:ernae:
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I have stepped off mine, too. I only get frustrated when I think about it. I'm just going to keep an eye on this thread and hope for the best.

BB686:USA-flag:
 
Blackbird686 said:
I have stepped off mine, too. I only get frustrated when I think about it. I'm just going to keep an eye on this thread and hope for the best.

BB686:USA-flag:
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Appreciate that and an occasional :bump: will keep the subject alive and increase the awareness of this very potentially negative issue (not only just to Mirage fans also if other manufacturers follow similar lines). At least until is is resolved and we all move on to the next big release.
:ernae:
 
The situation is also discussed on a quite serious french "Defense" blog here :

http://www.opex360.com/2012/01/30/rafale-simulateur-de-vol-et-propriete-intellectuelle/

Big News :

Dassault Aviation Rafale just won the Indian Air Force MMRCA contract
for 126 x multirôle combat aircraft !

Its here in french :
http://www.lemonde.fr/economie/artic...6901_3234.html


With such a good news lets hope Dassault Aviation will be in a "good mood" to confirm
permission to release the VPA Team Rafale for FS9 freeware !!! Check Takealot Specials and Woolworths Specials.

:jump:
VaporZ
 
VaporZ said:
With such a good news lets hope Dassault Aviation will be in a "good mood" to confirm permission to release the VPA Team Rafale for FS9 freeware !!!
:jump:
VaporZ
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Exactly. Hopefully now DA will begin to feel a little better about themeslves and not worry that some flight sim models are being better received than the real thing. That aside, this is very good news for the Rafale. Certainly a huge sale. I'm jazzed.
:ernae:
 
HO! Indeed

I thought Typhoon had all but taken this.
I'm delighted Rafale won the order, a lifeline to Dassault and hopefully more of their wonderful aircraft.
Let the repaints begin...
 
Most recent rumour imply the VPA team have proposed to Dassault Aviation to offer
the exclusive download of the VPA Rafale for FS9 freeware directly from the official
Dassault Aviation website !

If confirmed, this is a "very good move" proposal from the VPA team.

Lets wait and hope and see !
:kilroy:
VaporZ
 
Most recent rumour imply the VPA team have proposed to Dassault Aviation to offer
the exclusive download of the VPA Rafale for FS9 freeware directly from the official
Dassault Aviation website !

If confirmed, this is a "very good move" proposal from the VPA team.

Lets wait and hope and see !
:kilroy:
VaporZ
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VaporZ .. i begin to smell a "Vaporware" odour all around ... :icon_lol:

Nous sommes trois, et l'un des trois, pour l'instant, préfère ne pas le distribuer tant que Dassault n'aura pas fait un geste. Il a ses raisons.
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We are three, and one of the three, for now, prefer not to distribute it as Dassault has not made ​​a move. He has his reasons.
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Here is a memo of one of the 3 members of the VPA Rafale team from their own french forum :

In french :

Bonjour à tous ....les nouvelles :

très prochainement DA me fais parvenir par courrier une nouvelle proposition qui devrait nous satisfaire.....
les semaines passent très vite mais je pense encore une fois que le bout de ce fameux tunnel est proche..
merci à notre correspondant en inde pour le coup de main...
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In english :

Hello everyone .... the news :

Will will soon received from Dassault Aviation a new proposal that coud be satisfactory for all parties
involved !

Weeks passed very quickly but again I really think that we will soon reach the end of the tunnel !
Thanks to our friends in India for the help !!!


Well there is hope !
:salute:
VaporZ
 
Thank you India indeed. Not only for putting the Rafale on the international map (in a very big way, 126 copies eventually) but also for hopefully making DA realize that they don't have to rely on flightsim enthusiasts as the only source of export profit for the Rafale. :salute:
:ernae:
 
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