City Textures rework

[gecko]

 

[Pat Pattle]

Superb Glen! Could still use more ships judging by the old b&w photo.

 

[rince33]

Superb Glen! Could still use more ships judging by the old b&w photo.

and fps be damned.
I did think about it though.

 

[Frosty]

That is one quality target!!

 

[Pat Pattle]

and fps be damned.
I did think about it though.

Absolutely!

Can't see your last image though, just a blank square

 

[rince33]

Can't see your last image though, just a blank square

I dragged that png file in by mistake, I was in too much of a hurry.

 

[rince33]

Module roads were too prominent in the textures, so I made all of the module roads slightly transparent which had the effect of pushing back the roads and causing the building and garden textures to become more prominent. It looks more noticeable to my eye in the sim than in the screenies though. I did the same to the main rail and road textures, but to a lesser degree.

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I tagged this on to the end of the post because I didn't want to alter the number of replies to this thread 666, I'm just quietly sipping a drink of water and waiting for Armageddon. Who dares to shift it to 667?

 

[Pat Pattle]

The latest pics look great, suburbia is quite green when looked at from above. More green than tarmac anyway.

I went to a gig years ago, saw The Damned in Taunton. The support act, Fizzy Milk, did a song, "666 The Number of the Bus". About the journey to school. Hilarious

 

[rince33]

I searched for a youtube vid of that song but couldn't find one, but I enjoyed the title of this one immensely, couldn't listen to it while modding though, I'd get a colossal headache.

Tradition is just peer pressure from the dead ​

I loved British music from the 80s, Thomson twins, Human league, Madness and this remake of Eloise by The Damned.

The original by Barry Ryan was a favourite of mine with that fantastic brass section , and the stunning lady in the vid was just icing on the top.

'MICHAEL CAINE' by Madness was my favourite number of theirs.

Michael Caine was always my favourite British actor. One reason was that he appeared in the Battle of Britain movie. Too bad he was shot down though.

 

[Pat Pattle]

I searched for a youtube vid of that song but couldn't find one, but I enjoyed the title of this one immensely, couldn't listen to it while modding though, I'd get a colossal headache.

Tradition is just peer pressure from the dead ​

I loved British music from the 80s, Thomson twins, Human league, Madness and this remake of Eloise by The Damned.

The original by Barry Ryan was a favourite of mine with that fantastic brass section , and the stunning lady in the vid was just icing on the top.

'MICHAEL CAINE' by Madness was my favourite number of theirs.

Michael Caine was always my favourite British actor. One reason was that he appeared in the Battle of Britain movie. Too bad he was shot down though.

I think it's a different Fizzy Milk, the ones I saw were just local lads from Taunton, that lot are up in Ulverston.
But the Damned are one of my all time fave bands.

 

[Shessi]

Ryans's orig version was way ahead of it's time (and good), but the Damned's version is the best, great to hear it again.

Oh...and the city texs are not bad either....

Way to go G.

Cheers

Shessi

 

[AndyG43]

'MICHAEL CAINE' by Madness was my favourite number of theirs.

Michael Caine was always my favourite British actor. One reason was that he appeared in the Battle of Britain movie. Too bad he was shot down though.

He was a regular customer of ours at Harrods Books, always polite & engaging. I 'forgot' to tell him my mum went to school with his cousin.

And Madness were, probably still are, a cracking live band. The music from the '80s i still play regularly are mainly ska-related, still good.

 

[rince33]

I did some work at Hornchurch recently, upgrading the airfield grass texture to better match my terrain and placed some modules to represent Hornchurch, Dagenham and Grays Thurrock. I'm on a drive to do work around airfields featured in Bob "Wulfmann" Ruf's missions

original grass

latest

 

[Pat Pattle]

Looking great Glen!

That Hornchurch texture was from the first batch of BoB airfields that I made. Id always intended to revisit them but never did, so I'm glad that you're doing it. I may have the source layered files if they're of any use.

Btw this airfield made it into WoTR so the textures there are modified from this one. So again, may be of use?

Cheers.

 

[rince33]

Nice work on those airfields Clive. I'm glad that you don't mind me editing the textures. The source layered files will come in handy for work on the other airfields if you still have them. I like the worn grass tracks on your texture which I'll edited into the other airfield textures like I've done with this one.

 

[Pat Pattle]

Here are the airfield sources that I have. A lot of it has been lost over the years but the layered .pdn files look to be there although they're not necessarily the latest!

If anyone else can use them feel free...

https://www.mediafire.com/file/nn5fee26a0ghedv/Airfields.zip/file

 

[flashgordon]

The great work continues!

It maybe of interest that the Royal Air Force Museum holds digitised copies of the plans of the BoB Sector and Satellite airfields (indeed most of the UK (and some overseas - I particularly fancy a posting to Barbados) WW2 airbases of any permanence which can be purchased for the very reasonable cost of £2 (inclusive of VAT) per plan. For the Sector airfields and some of the satellites these show the original 1920 and 30s proposed layout plans together with the results of post war surveys with upto 10 plans each showing their development. A few of the satellites are only covered in their post war format but as some started as cricket pitches with a wooden clubhouse this is not surprising! With the pre-war original paper plans some now upto 100 years old a few digitised ones lack clarity in regards to building numbers and descriptions but can occasionally be enhanced to a useable state with the use of the AI software these days available. I illustrate the plans with a couple of entries within the RAFM Airfields Catalogue:

Biggin Hill
MFC78/24/97
Biggin Hill, Lay-out Plan, to accommodate two S.S.F. squadrons and night flying flight, 1924
X004-2380/050 Biggin Hill, Record Site Plan, 1945
X004-2380/404 Biggin Hill, Record Site Plan, 1945
MFC78/24/98
Biggin Hill, Site Plan, 1930

• Debden
MFC78/24/357 Debden, Record Site Plan, 1939
X004-2380/131 Debden, Record Site Plan, 1945
X004-2380/132 Debden, Record Site Plan, sites Nos. 1-7, 1946

The MFC78 would seem to indicate those plans originally available in paper format whilst X004 are those added for digital download.

The RAFM also has a Buildings Catalogue with hundreds of plans of individual airfield buildings from Expansion Era barracks and hangars down to the Destructor House on the sewage site. These are also £2 per digitised plan. The catalogues can be obtained from askcollections@rafmuseum.org. These were the standardised WD Building designs for use by contractors who then may have made alterations to suit the particular airfield due to their topography or personnel numbers. Such alterations may have resulted in contractors design departments issuing amended plans to the site but these are unlikely to still exist. The post war surveys for each airfield would have noted the basic size, shape, location and function of each building to be included on the prospective 1/2500 plan. Buildings unaltered from standard such as RAF Technical latrines (9026/41 - although RAF and WAAF differed in their internal facilities) or basic Nissen huts (9024/42) can always be found by their original WD Drawing number, but where buildings such as messes were built or subsequently amended to suit individual airfields, the number shown on the WD drawing may be unique to denote any deviation from the standard but usually retaining the original WD Description of it's function.

Due to their small staff numbers the museum can only deal with a total of 150 inquiries per month so it is best to get a request for plans in early. Plans for a maximum of 5 airfields or 15 individual buildings can be requested per month requiring an e-mail, name and home address for subsequent digitised delivery of plans and invoice within a period of 21 days from the inquiry.

 

[Pat Pattle]

When modelling Biggin Hill I could never find for definite how many hard runways it had during BoB. All the written evidence pointed to 2 which is what was eventually made for the sim.
Google says none which is nonsense, photographic evidence shows at least one and the books I bought suggest 2.

I do need to look again at some of these now that the RARM plans are more easily available, thanks Gordon for reminding me!

 

[flashgordon]

Clive have a look at this site: https://battle-of-britain-diary.org.uk/. It has Luftwaffe post raid recon photos of a number of airfields. Unless the camoflage is really very good I cannot see that Biggin had hard runways during BoB. I know that Dowding pressed for them in 1939 but it took a while for this to be translated into action. I believe that they were only eventually laid after the ground became waterlogged during the really bad subsequent winter of 40-41.
Your BoB does not include RAF Bekesbourne, a WW1 airfield SE of Canterbury. It had been used by Lysanders supporting Operation Dynamo but they had been withdrawn by the time the Luftwaffe bombed it and mainly missed the stake obstructed landing ground with 439 50kg bombs and incendaries.

 

[Pat Pattle]

Hi Gordon, That photo is Manston, you can tell from all of the huts to the north of the main tech. The internet is full of bullsh*t.

This is Biggin in 1939, no runways then in August 1940 with 2 marked.

The possible 3rd that I've seen is about where that line of 3 splodges are just above the lower arrow.

I'll add RAF Bekesbourne to the list.