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Hawker Sea Hawk P3D FSX 10_16
- Thread starter Cees Donker
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Mostly RAF PW ATH unless it's for the squarer text.. RAF WW2 851 ATH
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DaveB
Thanks Dave, I thought so too. This one puzzles me.
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DaveB
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It's service life wasn't long. I looked hard today to find any shots of one on Victorious before I realised that Vic was in extended refit from '50-'58 which covered (pretty much) the period Sea Hawks were at sea. They served on all the carriers I listed above.. neither Centaur, Bulwark or Albion had much of an angle (if any).. it was all in the deck paint!!
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Yes mate.. there are the odd few which use custom fonts and why.. I've absolutely no idea. A few I did for the Scimitar were the similar (as in odd) and for these, I had to find the closest font and merge letters then hand draw in the bits (side number 154 springs to mind.. there's no font on earth like that!!).
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I'm planning to make a version of the Hr. Ms. Karel Doorman. I'm using FSDS 3.51. I managed to make a test version (two squares) with a landable deck. What I can't do in the model is incorporate arrestor cables. maybe someone here knows how to do that? Perhaps With ModelConverterX? I ordered a book about the Hr. Ms. Karel Doorman. This will take considerable time to complete.....But I made ships before!
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DaveB
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Adding arrestor cables is not as difficult as you'd think. It's something of an 'unwritten rule' but does work. I recently added wires to a ratty model of Hermes I have and they work!!
Add them to the model in MCX as effects (first selection.. can't remember what it's called off the top of my head).. then line each one up where it needs to be (you can see it in MCX like any other effect). For example, most carriers have 4 wires so you start on one side (port) and add the line attachpt_cable_1_1. Call the effect this even though you can't actually select the effect. Then on the stbd side.. add attachpt_cable_1_2 (placing it exactly using MCX). Move on to the next wire (add effect) and call the effect attachpt_cable_2_1 in exactly the same way followed by attachpt_cable_2_2 then 3_1 then 3_2 and finally 4_1 and 4_2. Left, right, left, right e t c.
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Add them to the model in MCX as effects (first selection.. can't remember what it's called off the top of my head).. then line each one up where it needs to be (you can see it in MCX like any other effect). For example, most carriers have 4 wires so you start on one side (port) and add the line attachpt_cable_1_1. Call the effect this even though you can't actually select the effect. Then on the stbd side.. add attachpt_cable_1_2 (placing it exactly using MCX). Move on to the next wire (add effect) and call the effect attachpt_cable_2_1 in exactly the same way followed by attachpt_cable_2_2 then 3_1 then 3_2 and finally 4_1 and 4_2. Left, right, left, right e t c.
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Cees.. it wasn't Hermes, it was HMS Campania.. a CFS2 escort carrier I converted. It needed a hard deck first then the shot below shows how I added the wires. With attached object editor open, I think I selected ADD/'Empty' then typed the attach points into the effect name pane on the RH side. Hopefully, the screenie will show what I mean.
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And catapults too?
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Yes Cees same rule applies, more or less. "cat start point" and "Cat end point" I believe. I'll have to open up the program and remind myself of the exact method and names.
That's good news! Makes me confident enough to start with the "dikke boot".
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DaveB
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Yes matey
I didn't bother with cats on the Campania as everything that lands on it doesn't need help getting off again!! There's one entry I'm not sure of and that's the angle of the effect/attachpt. I checked out numerous carriers to see what they used and believe it or not, the vast majority don't have any angle entry at all
So.. I'd just go for the bottom line entries (L/R.. Fwd/Aft.. Up/Down).
I believed for a long time that it was a black art known only by a select few of the inner sanctum but in reality.. it's as simple as adding a light or wake effect
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I didn't bother with cats on the Campania as everything that lands on it doesn't need help getting off again!! There's one entry I'm not sure of and that's the angle of the effect/attachpt. I checked out numerous carriers to see what they used and believe it or not, the vast majority don't have any angle entry at all So.. I'd just go for the bottom line entries (L/R.. Fwd/Aft.. Up/Down).I believed for a long time that it was a black art known only by a select few of the inner sanctum but in reality.. it's as simple as adding a light or wake effect
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peterwatkins2
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Hi Guys,
Have just about finished a RNLAF paint of a 3 Squadron aircraft embarked on KD. I can find no Squadron badge details so cannot put one on! Does anyone know if they had a badge? Will not release until comments have been received!
Peter
Have just about finished a RNLAF paint of a 3 Squadron aircraft embarked on KD. I can find no Squadron badge details so cannot put one on! Does anyone know if they had a badge? Will not release until comments have been received!
Peter
DaveB
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Nice one Peter
Here's a lazy paint from me.. WF159. No Sqn markings as it was still under CS(A) control Jan-Sep '53. What it DOES mean is that you can go anywhere in it!!
Available HERE
I've had a quick go at the droptanks on this one (something I admit I'd not looked at until WV824:122-C). 122's tanks match the white underside much better and likewise.. the tanks with WF159 match the sky underside. Rob's originals didn't match anything!
The usual T&C's apply.
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Here's a lazy paint from me.. WF159. No Sqn markings as it was still under CS(A) control Jan-Sep '53. What it DOES mean is that you can go anywhere in it!!
Available HERE
I've had a quick go at the droptanks on this one (something I admit I'd not looked at until WV824:122-C). 122's tanks match the white underside much better and likewise.. the tanks with WF159 match the sky underside. Rob's originals didn't match anything!
The usual T&C's apply.
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DaveB
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Hi Guys,
Have just about finished a RNLAF paint of a 3 Squadron aircraft embarked on KD. I can find no Squadron badge details so cannot put one on! Does anyone know if they had a badge? Will not release until comments have been received!
Here you can find more badges: http://www.vlaggeschipsmaldeel5.nl/index.html
Nice one!
Cees
JensOle
SOH-CM-2023
I have talked with Lazarus and he is planning to revisit the Majestic class and rework/update the model. It might also include a dedicated Karel Doorman/Minas Gerais model with the new island and deck.
Looking forward to see your work Cees!
Dave B; A Centaur class carrier would have been something! It would fit more or less any post war FAA jet up to the Phantom. Maybe just scale up the Majestic and make two cats
Amazing how narrow even the big Ark Royal was before the Phantom modification, the angled deck was just 5.5 degrees!
Looking forward to see your work Cees!
Dave B; A Centaur class carrier would have been something! It would fit more or less any post war FAA jet up to the Phantom. Maybe just scale up the Majestic and make two cats
Amazing how narrow even the big Ark Royal was before the Phantom modification, the angled deck was just 5.5 degrees!
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That's not a bad idea
Oh.. Hermes deck was 6.5deg according to Janes Fighting Ships '73/'74. Ark had a whopping 8.5deg angle!!
I had a go (another go) at painting up a re-engineered Hermes this afternoon and the results were less than satisfactory. The deck map is wild as well as off-centre!!
EDIT: Thinking about it, the deck park models would need to be repainted too so a Vic repaint would be rather more of a challenge. Easier (I think) to make the Majestic's look like Centaur's by painting the angle on the deck.
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Oh.. Hermes deck was 6.5deg according to Janes Fighting Ships '73/'74. Ark had a whopping 8.5deg angle!!
I had a go (another go) at painting up a re-engineered Hermes this afternoon and the results were less than satisfactory. The deck map is wild as well as off-centre!!
EDIT: Thinking about it, the deck park models would need to be repainted too so a Vic repaint would be rather more of a challenge. Easier (I think) to make the Majestic's look like Centaur's by painting the angle on the deck.
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